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Will you be sending your child on 'June 1st'

553 replies

Emcont · 03/05/2020 09:53

I've done this in AIBU for the voting feature. IF (and a big IF) schools go back on June 1st, will you be sending yours?

YABU - NO

YANBU - YES

OP posts:
SeedyM · 04/05/2020 19:04

No. My son is asthmatic and my dad died from Covid in April. He was not well and elderly but I’ve seen it first hand and if we have to sit tight with 3 young kids driving us nuts then so be it. I don’t want to through it again and nor should anyone else in their right minds. My husband has accepted that his business will be out of action for a year and hopes he can pick it up next year. We are lucky to have low outgoing and some savings and I am fully aware some people will be driven by necessity to get kids back if they can.

Harls1969 · 04/05/2020 19:12

I work in a school and I really hope that we will be back on the 1st June. But we have heard nothing as yet (it'll be Sunday at least before we do) and I am not sure that all schools will be open for all pupils. But fingers crossed!

Vynalbob · 04/05/2020 19:18

No
For two reasons

  1. Vulnerable people within immediate family can you imagine their MH if they internalise them being the bullet.
  2. Too soon / no decent plan. Without a vaccine or even fairly decent medication on the horizon it will lead to second peak and another lockdown.

And the BS about local lock down as if we were a vast country like US or Canada is just cloud cuckoo land.... Couldn't even block off London due to its in affordability meaning masses commute upto & over an hour one way.

canigooutyet · 04/05/2020 19:32

Waiting around for a vaccine is not workable. A lot of people, myself included won't have it. History has shown what can happen when these things are released too quickly (Not an anti-vaxer)

Antibody testing makes more sense and it can be tested somewhere between 15 and 35 minutes. Apparently we will be able to test 3,000 a day. The realities of testing for schools in a month time, I cannot see it. First on the list has to be NHS and Emergency services, and 21,000 tests a week isn't really that many.

JohPa · 04/05/2020 19:42

As a f/t NHS worker and single parent my primary aged children have had no choice but to go to school throughout. I can't say it doesn't grate slightly that some will now choose to keep their children away from school unless there is a compelling reason to e.g. member of the household shielding. It won't be a choice for many and it hasn't been for lots of key workers throughout.

MrPickles73 · 04/05/2020 19:42

Why would you not? (Unless you / your child has some underlying health issue). For normally healthy fit children I dont see the issue. The scandinavians are already back at school.

Are you holding out for a vaccine?

TimeForDinnerDinnerDinner · 04/05/2020 19:42

Nope. Too soon.

LockedInMadness · 04/05/2020 19:45

So New Zealand has tested all over 60s for covid 19 and given them a medical kit to stay safe.

Population of NZ - 4.8m
Population of UK - 67.8m.
Population of London alone is millions more than NZ.
You're right, There is really no comparison.

Mummadeeze · 04/05/2020 19:47

Definitely. Our household has had the virus so I don’t feel like there is much risk in sending her to school. And I am really failing at home schooling. I want her to finish her last ever term at her Primary School too.

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 19:49

The infection is not more prevalent now than when we went into lockdown
Ffs I wish people would stop spouting ill informed bullshit
The R figure was 3 at that point it's under 1 now
Infections and deaths are slowing
All in the garden isn't rosy but at least base your fucking arguments on facts
Fucking dementors

Fact - there are a lot more people currently hospitalised with covid19 than there were on March 20th.

Fact - the R figure tells us how rapidly the virus is spreading, it doesn't tell us how prevalent the virus is. You can have a high R with a tiny proportion of the population infected and you can have a low R with a much higher proportion of the population infected. By prevalence, I was talking about the proportion of the population infected, not the R number. If 3 people are infected and the R is 3 then a further 9 people will be infected. If 1000 people are infected and the R is 1 then a further 1000 people will be infected. That's why prevalence is as important as the R number.

Will you be sending your child on 'June 1st'
tootiredtoconga · 04/05/2020 19:49

As a f/t NHS worker and single parent my primary aged children have had no choice but to go to school throughout. I can't say it doesn't grate slightly that some will now choose to keep their children away from school unless there is a compelling reason to e.g. member of the household shielding. It won't be a choice for many and it hasn't been for lots of key workers throughout.

I won't have a choice either as I work in a school. But I still think other people should have the choice and wouldn't blame them for keeping their DC off if they can.

JohPa · 04/05/2020 19:50

I'm also curious to know when those that wouldn't allow their children back in June would allow them back? We know a vaccine will take some time, do you believe this will all have disappeared by September?

Supermum29 · 04/05/2020 19:51

I wouldn’t want to but I’d have a pretty hard job explaining to my employer that I have to carry on working from home because DD is home. My employer will have me back in the office the moment they are able to and even tried to stop me from working from home in the first place!!!!

Angelil · 04/05/2020 19:51

Here in the Netherlands primary and creche are returning on May 11; my son is going back. I am a secondary teacher who will return to work on June 2. Looking forward to it all frankly.

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 19:53

NOT ONE pupil, teacher or parent has died. The risk is very minimal. It is far outweighed by the negative effects of lockdown including on the children’s mental health, education and well-being.

What about grandparents? My school hasn't lost any children or parents, though we have had a parent in ICU, we have lost a couple of grandparents though, that I know of. Possibly more because I only know of those two because I know the families personally and obviously I don't know all that families in the school.

daisymay133 · 04/05/2020 19:55

Unless you keep them off for up to two years til there’s a vaccine (having one will come much earlier than it being fully distributed across 66 million people), then there’s no difference keeping them off now than in September?

daisymay133 · 04/05/2020 19:56

Kids can go back to school and parents and kids still isolate from the vulnerable inc grandparents

Dondons1 · 04/05/2020 19:57

Whilst I appreciate the positivity in thinking that we can get back to "normal" again, realistically I do not envisage the schools returning until September.

We should remember that it is not the children being home that is preventing many of us returning to work. If you are a key worker, your kids can go to school. If you can work from home, then you are likely to be doing this for a long time.

If you work in hospitality, it will be one of the last sectors to return.
I think we need to all take a HUGE step back, the education sector is not ready to reopen. Before COVID there was a lack for teachers. With it, there are fewer still. Some are infected, some are shielding, some have to self isolate and others have tragically died. We need to consider the safety of the faculty and staff.

I personally will not be sending my child in. Health is far more important than anything.

cookiemon666 · 04/05/2020 19:58

Yes as soon as the school opens. Dd is in year 10, ds is in year 8. I am also a key worker

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 20:01

As a f/t NHS worker and single parent my primary aged children have had no choice but to go to school throughout. I can't say it doesn't grate slightly that some will now choose to keep their children away from school unless there is a compelling reason to e.g. member of the household shielding. It won't be a choice for many and it hasn't been for lots of key workers throughout.

And as a member of staff, I have been in school looking after those keyworker children. They are much safer beingone of very few than they will be when the hoardes return if that is done too soon.

Daffodil101 · 04/05/2020 20:01

It’s hopefully optional. If you opt to keep your kids off, more room for mine.

Rosebel · 04/05/2020 20:03

You can't isolate from the vulnerable if you live with them. There are 3 vulnerable people in our house so how are s that going to work?

daisymay133 · 04/05/2020 20:06

I don’t know how anyone can think schools aren’t opening now

It’s on every media site - I expect leaked like every other major update has been

though I expect certain year groups

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 20:09

I'm also curious to know when those that wouldn't allow their children back in June would allow them back? We know a vaccine will take some time, do you believe this will all have disappeared by September?

Mine will go back when schools open regardless because I work in a school so I won't be at home to keep on top of their work (it's just about manageable while going in on a rota). However, I don't think schools should go back until the numbers are less than they were before schools closed and testing and tracking is starting to contain the virus. The R value only has to go a little above 1 to trigger a second wave so I think it needs to be comfortable below 1 before we start doing things that increase it again.

FelicisNox · 04/05/2020 20:11

No.

There's no actual plan for this anyway so I don't know where this is even coming from? Stop making rubbish up.

As for peaking 8th April I don't know where that's come from either because that's not remotely true.

We will also see a 2nd peak once lockdown is over and we start reintegrating and until we see what happens THEN we won't have a reasonable and sustainable plan.

So much BS on this thread I don't know where to start so I'll save my breath.

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