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Will you be sending your child on 'June 1st'

553 replies

Emcont · 03/05/2020 09:53

I've done this in AIBU for the voting feature. IF (and a big IF) schools go back on June 1st, will you be sending yours?

YABU - NO

YANBU - YES

OP posts:
Connie222 · 04/05/2020 12:41

@cantory I agree with you

FourTeaFallOut · 04/05/2020 12:42

If the learning environment is only half as chaotic as projected by teachers on MN, I don't think there will be much value in returning for those six weeks.

Littlecaf · 04/05/2020 12:53

Yep happy for mine to go back.

We all have to get it at some point for immunity. DP and I are healthy, able to work from home and very low risk. Were not seeing anyone to spread it to if we did get it so let’s get on with it.

Delta1 · 04/05/2020 12:55

See @cantory your style is combative and you make yourself sound like you're trying to convince everyone else that they're doing the wrong thing to reassure yourself that you're doing the right thing if you keep yours home. Not just on this thread either. Of course I have children or why would I care. Confused

Delta1 · 04/05/2020 12:57

I've already replied to the OP up thread that mine will be going back as soon as their school opens.

EducatingArti · 04/05/2020 13:15

I don't think that it will actually be possible to go back to anything like normal teaching on 1st June, no.
Schools are just too overcrowded, lacking in levels of hand washing facilities etc for anything like usual numbers of student to be in at present
Once the R value and total numbers of cases are much lower and robust testing and tracing is proven to be in place then it will be different.

Daffodil101 · 04/05/2020 14:02

I’m interested to hear that teachers have already given up their Easter holidays.

What’s your source?

Two of my good friends teach in primary school, they are on a rota. They each had two weeks off over Easter.

bettybattenburg · 04/05/2020 14:05

I’m interested to hear that teachers have already given up their Easter holidays. What’s your source?

I worked all through the Easter holidays, is that a good enough source for you?

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 14:11

I’m interested to hear that teachers have already given up their Easter holidays. What’s your source?

I worked all through the Easter holidays, is that a good enough source for you?

I'm a TA and I was in school Easter week, including the bank holiday Monday.

ScorpionQueen · 04/05/2020 14:17

I’m interested to hear that teachers have already given up their Easter holidays. What's your source?
I worked through the Easter holidays as did my colleagues that weren't shielding. We'll be doing the same at half term, no doubt.

Daffodil101 · 04/05/2020 14:21

It’s not every teacher though is it? I’ve just counted four that I know of who didn’t work.

So it’s not true that all teachers have given up their holidays is it?

One of my best friends is a primary teacher. She hasn’t been into work for the last three weeks. I think she’s on the rota for May half term, but she doesn’t mind because she has been mainly at home.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/05/2020 14:21

I’m interested to hear that teachers have already given up their Easter holidays. What's your source?*

Don’t do it guys! You have all been baited again into debating/discussing our working practices

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/05/2020 14:22

It’s not every teacher though is it? I’ve just counted four that I know of who didn’t work.

So it’s not true that all teachers have given up their holidays is it?*

Ooh big survey! I am not telling you what I did and don’t do during Easter. You tell us what you did instead

dellacucina · 04/05/2020 14:22

I don't feel I will have a choice if the option is available. Single parent with one child in nursery.

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 14:26

On Friday 20th March when schools closed there were 714 new cases of covid19 and 36 deaths. On Friday 1st May (comparing Friday with Friday because there is always a dip at the weekend) there were 6,201 new cases of covid19 and 739 deaths.

Closing the schools will have been a complete waste of time if they reopen too soon. That said if they open my children will be there. Largely because I work in a school so that means I will be there too. I just want to be sure they are opening because the timing is right and not because they are succumbing to pressure stirred up by the press.

Rosebel · 04/05/2020 14:42

A lot of people have suggested schools only being open for certain year groups or splitting classes but I think that's even more disruptive than being at home.
If you split the classes what happens? Does the teacher give the same lesson twice? Or teach it to half the class and do it online for the rest? Since a lot of teachers will be off still what happens to their classes? Do we have an endless supply of substitute teachers?

TeenPlusTwenties · 04/05/2020 14:42

Closing the schools will have been a complete waste of time if they reopen too soon.

Well, yes and no.
They closed the schools and did lockdown to help the NHS cope - to buy time. It did. The peak was 3 weeks after lockdown, which is about the time needed for people to get really ill from existing infections, and die.

Re-opening in a partial manner as part of a controlled releasing of lockdown plus increased testing has the potential to work well.

Right this minute I'm more concerned for my DD's mental health of staying in lockdown that I am for her going back to school in a controlled way.

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 14:48

Right this minute I'm more concerned for my DD's mental health of staying in lockdown that I am for her going back to school in a controlled way.

I do understand that but if they open too soon then there will be another surge in cases and they will have to close again. I think that would be worse than not opening at all. And remember that keeping children out of schools is not just about them, it's about stopping the spread so that more vulnerable people are less likely to get it.

WhatsHappeningCaroleBaskin · 04/05/2020 14:52

DD has been in nursery throughout - and I'll be glad when all her friends are back. If she hadn't been going, I would definitely send her on June 1st.

How long do people think schools should be off? September, January, when a vaccine is available? That could be years away..

FourTeaFallOut · 04/05/2020 14:57

When? When community levels are far lower, when track and trace is established, when more treatment options have been identified, tested and approved.

TeenPlusTwenties · 04/05/2020 15:24

I'm not massively convinced it is schools that would cause a surge in cases. Especially if only partially open, or open with restrictions such as no assembly, different playtimes, maybe eating lunch in classroom.

I think the bigger areas of risk are: public transport, planes, pubs, theatres, race courses.

nobodyimportant · 04/05/2020 15:36

I'm not massively convinced it is schools that would cause a surge in cases.

That depends entirely on how close to the tipping point we are. Given that the virus is much more prevalent now than it was when schools closed I would suggest that now is a worse time for them to be open than it was then. It has yet to be seen if things will have improved dramatically enough in the next few weeks for June 1st to be realistic.

TeenPlusTwenties · 04/05/2020 15:47

Given that the virus is much more prevalent now than it was when schools closed

Well, I'm not sure that's true for a start. The people who died at the peak were infected around the time of school closure.
Infection numbers are going up now because testing is increasing, not because more people are infected now than at school closure time.

RickOShay · 04/05/2020 16:51

@cantory
I’m with you. I wish I could trust our government, but I don’t. I don’t think that they have handled anything well.
Test and trace should have been implemented from the start.
I just don’t see how schools can keep both teachers and students safe.

niknac1 · 04/05/2020 17:36

Yes