To wonder why teachers are not teaching my child?

[Nickynackienoo]

I am a nurse redeployed to itu. Doing 13 hour days and stressed up to the eyeballs at the moment. My children (12 and 8) go to school on my work days and on my days off i keep them at home with me according to the government guidance. As far as I can tell, the teachers at school are just childminding and not teaching anything. How is it that they can have just 4 kids in the school and not manage to get them to do at least some work? How can I possibly do the job of a teacher on my days off? They have send so many links via email that I can’t make sense of, it’s so overly complicated. Surely as key workers they should be doing the job they are being paid to do? I must be missing something, can someone fill me in?

Nice bit of teacher bashing.

Thanks for working in the itu, however being a key worker doesn't suddenly mean you have the right to start slagging others using ill informed information.

The teachers in school will be 'childminding' but also supporting their own students online. I am sure if one of your children had difficulties the teacher would help them out but they aren't going to 'teach them'.

Ask if your children can take in work set by their class teacher to complete, be supported with when they are there.

Our local school are doing this at parents request.

Teachers are from all over the world - my posts are all in my personal time. Something to consider

She considers it important that we know just how hard she is working, out of her comfort zone, so why aren’t we. Because teachers engineered this situation themselves so they can sit at home and drink tea.

What a nasty comment. It's relevant because she's stressed and tired and doesn't have the energy to make up for lack of education when she's home in the evenings. I do think the attitude that any questioning of nything a teacher does is abusive just ridiculous. Everybody else will come under scrutiny in their jobs too.

Of course parents are going to ask questions about their child's education. Some schools are doing a much better job than others during these strange times so if your kids have drawn the short straw naturally you're going to question it.

Saraclara you’ve obviously missed the threads slating nurses for getting free pizza and being allowed to jump supermarket queues?

OP, of course you are allowed to vent and de stress. Everyone needs to be kind to each other and of course you are allowed to ask why they aren’t helping with teaching your kids.

Not all teachers are teaching, my secondary school sister is not teaching any lessons on zoom, she is do a few hours every other day. She is not setting/marking work continuously and she hasn’t done a single shift in a hub. Compared to other friends who are basically teaching over zoom as normal every day. It seems random what each school is doing.

@Lemonblast

Schools are woefully underfunded! Some teachers don’t even have laptops. It’s an utter disgrace isn’t it! Teachers and pupils deserve better for sure.

Dear Keyworkers,

Thanks for getting up and going to work. You are appreciated. But you are not so fantastic that your children deserve a personalised, bespoke education while the rest children manage at home with their parents.

Don't let the clapping go to your head.

The teachers are teaching, looking after their kids, keeping an eye on your kids, and dealing with this all too. They are also key workers.

Don't be such a jerk, OP.

But also, if you can't manage the home-school don't worry. We're all letting down the side on that one. The kids will be fine. The few who's parents are rushing them ahead will be a bit bored in the autumn.

OMFG. Not read the full thread, just the op.

The government have made it quite clear that its childcare not education and for children where there is no other childcare option.

I’m sure the teachers would have ideas of other things if it’s too much for you or maybe the other parent can help with teaching. It doesn’t have to be from 9-3 everyday, it obviously can be very flexible.

Teachers and school staff are at risk with no PPE I would imagine and signed up to teach not risk themselves during a pandemic having to childmind.

Madwife123. Good stuff - its great to protest and I totally agree with ten years + of tories running down the NHS.

But my comment was just that an individual teacher within an school/setting can't really challenge SLT - unless they want to find a new job or worse get blacklisted out of teaching.

Individual teachers are not making the rules here.

Its not much different for the medical profession who are warned to keep quiet.

Aaaaand that's enough Mumsnet for me today.

@BakewellGin1 My school have refused this as it “unfair”.

My 2 primary aged children are set work each day. It’s usually a print off this and answer the questions worksheets etc. pretty much independent, reviewing old topics with a bit of support and encouragement.

On Monday I worked 13 hours, we didn’t get Monday’s work done due to this. I printed it out and sent it in with them on Tuesday to complete. They came home not completed and the teacher explained they are not allowed to do the work their as it’s unfair. Today is my day off. Now they have to do Monday, Tuesdays and Wednesdays work today. Then I have to take photos and email it back to prove they have done it. It’s absolutely exhausting and means I’m having no quality time with my children at all.

Can’t do their work? Weird. It’s their work and they’re behind so why was the teacher in charge worried?

@Daffodil101

It’s not a competition and you know nothing about my job.

The only reason why schools are still open and staff are in is to support key workers. It is free childcare whether you like that term or not. My real job is being done online with my classes. The extra I do is attending school with the children of key workers to make sure they have a safe place to go while their parents work.

Because I care about the students.

I don’t understand this need to tear each other down or the spite and envy directed at specific professions. It’s pathetic.

What is the daffodil emoji for? Is that the new biscuit?

@Lemonblast. agree its shocking how little support and funding there is for this and for the lack of ICT support for homeschooling. Moving forward from this pandemic - ICT support would help many SEN children/School refusers to access education without the draconian approach the Dept.of Ed endorses in fining and penalising parents for children who struggle in school.

There we go. That's my response to you OP.

@VeraorHolly

Jesus christ what a nasty comment - you really don't do much for the good name of teachers! If someone is working as a nurse in an ICU ward actually I would be more than happy for their kids to have a bespoke education.

Actually what OP is asking for is what most of us provide at home - a little help with the work set - it doesn't have to be bespoke!

Beebie2 it’s got nothing to do with resources. It’s got everything to do with them all refusing to agree on a specific learning platform that they all use and that is compatible with each others devices. IT clearly not my strong point but DDs best friend is admin in the school and is about to hand her notice in because of the internal politics.

I'm a teacher still working as a key worker in school on Skelton staff.

We are not actually allowed to "teach" only care for. I assume it's because those at home are not being taught by teachers; so if we did we may be giving them an unfair advantage.

It's not a school rule by a government one

Why are all these teachers apparently so upset at this post?

We’re sick of being blamed for simply doing our jobs as instructed by our employers. The OP is clearly blaming the individual teachers, not the system.

I note that some teachers are on mumsnet during school hours. I don’t think that happened before lockdown? Without stating the obvious, that doesn’t help the cause.
Teachers are also having to look after their own children during work hours at home. They may well be doing their work at night when their children go to bed.
They can also take breaks when they want rather than at timetabled playtime. So yes, they could be posting on MN at any point in their day.

Op, don't worry, a number of teachers with their own children at home who are working full time at home aren't able to home Ed their own children who are running wild and on screens all day.

The others are taking their own children in with them to school.

There's nee learning going on anywhere!