To wonder why teachers are not teaching my child?

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I am a nurse redeployed to itu. Doing 13 hour days and stressed up to the eyeballs at the moment. My children (12 and 8) go to school on my work days and on my days off i keep them at home with me according to the government guidance. As far as I can tell, the teachers at school are just childminding and not teaching anything. How is it that they can have just 4 kids in the school and not manage to get them to do at least some work? How can I possibly do the job of a teacher on my days off? They have send so many links via email that I can’t make sense of, it’s so overly complicated. Surely as key workers they should be doing the job they are being paid to do? I must be missing something, can someone fill me in?

They are being redeployed as childcare not teachers. HTH.

They aren't teaching as the relevant teachers are at home setting work for the whole year group. Teachers are working, but from home.

Teachers at school are just childminding, they are keeping the children safe and occupied but absolutely are not 'teaching'.
Your 12yo though should maybe/probably have access to a computer from which to do the teacher set work, as if they were at home.

But why? Does that mean they get paid a childminders salary then? I just don’t understand why a teacher doesn’t teach.

That is how it's been set up. They are caring for children from various age groups. These teachers will also be setting g and marking online work for their own classes. For high school teachers this can be up to 5 different groups of children per day for their subject. It's not ideal but it is what it is at the moment

Government guidelines basically state that the teachers staying in school are purely there to act as a childminding service. No idea what the children are doing whilst there but perhaps ask whether they can take their own tablet/laptop in and work.

Oh yay. More fucking teacher bashing. Just what we need.

Have you read government guidelines of what they want teachers to do? Please do it doesn't sound like you have.

My 12 year old’s school has a structured timetable and the work is largely done on the computer. They also supervise them doing this at school. I have only one laptop to be shared by two children. It seems to me that the kids of key workers are at a definite disadvantage as we are not able spend as much time teaching them. You would think that the teachers might be able to do a bit more and not just pass the buck.

My husband who is a teacher has to take our 3 year old to work with him. He’s watching our child trying to make sure he isn’t touching anyone plus babysitting mixed class of primary and secondary (ages 5 to 14-15) and also trying to teach his actual classes remotely.

Not easy for anyone to be honest, I am concerned about my child mixing with the children of NHS workers but we also have no choice. Not sure why anyone is bashing another profession at this present time, surely we all just need to get through it the best we can.

They are putting themselves at risk to care for your children.

At the moment the staff are providing childcare in school. The staff are also sending work home and supporting all the children from a distance.

To add to my previous comment teachers will.will . also be caring for their own children alongside working in school and prepping and marking online work for their classes and responding to questions from their own classes. Im not a teacher but highly value what they are doing right now.

I agree with you OP. If they are in school, they should be being taught, or at least able to do the home school tasks in school, with someone to help if they are stuck. You can't teach when you get home!

‘Just childminding’ childminders are early years education providers and teach plenty.
Oh and here’s a

They are meant to 'childmind' while the kids do the work they would have been doing at home. Especially in the case of the 12 yo.. I teach a humanities subject. I genuinely could not teach him maths, science, languages or many other subjects. There will be different teachers in on a rota but not a regular or even spread of subjects. Parents aren't meant to be teaching their children either, just helping them access the work. If the kids in school cracked on with their normal syllabus there'd be a huge unbalance when schools do return. The teachers that are in with your children will also be expected to be supplying work for those at home, possibly teaching live video classes, marking and feedback or rewriting plans for the uncertain length of time we might have this academic year.

No I haven’t read it. Too busy doing my own job. It’s not teacher bashing, I just don’t see how hard it can be if there only 4 kids in the whole school. I’m sure this is coming across badly. I’m extremely tired and stressed and just don’t have the mental energy to deal with this.

They won't be the children's usual teachers and the teachers may be different each time. The children will all be in on random days and will be a wide range of ages. Teaching won't be possible although older ones should be able to get on with any work they have already been set.

Because they are lazy, evil, shirking grifters who deserve to be spat on by all.

Is that what you're getting at, OP? Do you think they are purposefully "failing"?

FFS.

It’s not that it’s hard, it’s that they’ve been specifically told they’re doing childcare not teaching. Otherwise the kids still at school would be advantaged over those at home who don’t have access to teachers

It would actually be unfair if they did teach- the kids of key workers would then be far ahead of all the other pupils whose parents cannot home school adequately

The expectation on schoolchildren at secondary is that they self study. You should not have to teach them. Many parents are working from home and not ablento supervise their children, but their children are safe. Just as yours are safe at school. They can get on with their work at home or in school, but if they were taught and no-one else was, that would not be fair. Logistically it would be hard with students at school in various year groups.
I am a teacher. I go in on a rota. On my days at home I have my 3 small kids with me. I set and mark work for my classes, complete online training and write schemes of work for next year.
I hope that answers some of your questions. You are not expected to teach your children.

It's government guidance. We don't like it really because it's boring but like others have said we have a wide age range of children in one class. Also I suppose it would put them at an unfair advantage if they were being taught.

It children were actually being taught in schools more parents would insist their children went to school and then closing schools would become pointless.

The children will be doing the same as children would be doing at home, with someone to supervise and help answer their questions. That still puts children at school in a better position than those whose parents are WFH full time as they still get more attention, are still in a routine and can at least see a few of their friends.

Parents at home don't have all day to teach their children either. Most if us arnt qualified teachers and are just as stressed as parents going outside the house to work. While you have been typing your posts you could instead have been looking into what the provision in school entail, you did have time to do this instead. We are all tired and stressed but so are teachers. They are doing an amazing job at the moment, often while caring for their own children of various ages. They are frontline workers the same as you so some respect wouldn't go amiss.