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AIBU or is this a toxic relationship? 🙁

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Rnr06 · 28/04/2020 02:47

I really don’t know what to do anymore. Me and my fiancĂ© have been together for 8 years, we were due to get married next year but due to finances it won’t be possible. However we have got many other issues at the moment.
My partners dad sadly passed away a few days before Xmas 2 years ago. At the time I was actually suffering from delayed grieving for my own dad, who passed away when I was a teenager and I never grieved him at the time, I didn’t have any family apart from my mother and she suffers with her MH so neither of us really knew how to cope with my dads passing. So when I was going through the delayed grieving (took a while to establish that’s why I was so depressed) but I started having counselling , I feel it did me the world of good and I finally could talk about things and get it off my chest, however at the same time my partners dad unexpectedly passed away after suffering a bleed on the brain. My partner and his dad always had a very strained relationship, and they had only recently started talking properly to each other. My parter would say awful stuff out of anger about his father when they argued, stuff like ‘I wish he dead’ it was horrible to hear because firstly you just don’t say that but also having lost my dad at a young age I thought it was so inconsiderate to say that. I feel my partner has some regret and guilt over the stuff he said but hasn’t actually said that to me.

I also saw that my partners dad didn’t make any effort to help their relationship and would always go out of his way to help his other children.

After my partners dad passed away, I was there for my partner and his family 110% I was there every step of the way whilst I was dealing with my own grief. A few months later my partner started not dealing with things too well, which was expected after losing his father. My partner had issues with work and the way they handled his grieving, again I was there every step, but he also had a couple of counselling sessions but didn’t like counselling.

After a year had passed my partner started taking it out on me, and I mean every thing. He would go through my phone whilst I was sleeping, he would hack my social media accounts, he would constantly ask who I was speaking to, I went to the cinema with one of my girl friends from work and he didn’t believe I was going with her. He only believed me when he physically saw me and her getting in the car together, he accused me of cheating because his gut was telling him, after every night out that I had he would check through my phone and my pictures and ask if any boys were out. He questioned me one night whether anyone has messaged me, I handed him my phone and said no, I had been drinking after a works party but he decided to question me when I got home. However I’d had a message from some guy 2 weeks before this night, on Instagram who I’ve never met, never spoke to or never seen in person, from the gym I go to, he said he added me just as he’d seen I go to that gym, I said back that’s fine and just followed him back out of politeness, nothing more to it and that was the end of the conversation. How because I said ‘no’ when asked if anyone’s messaged me even though I gave my partner my phone to look through he’s held it against me for over a year and says there discrepancies in my story and that’s why he has trust issues. Now my partner would go out a lot more often than me, and also followed girls from the gym and also a girl that he met on a night out but swears theres nothing to it, he also likes girls profile pictures but I’m just supposed to accept it, which I do as I’m pretty laid back, and I kind of feel I’ve been too laid back with him during our relationship and he’s taken advantage of that. But I told my partner that he questioned me about that message whilst I was drunk and I gave him my phone so why would I give him my phone if i was hiding anything? I even blocked the guy who messaged me the next day to show my partner there’s nothing to it at all. Oh also the message my partner was referring to, he had already read it as the night before he has gone through my phone whilst I was sleeping and I know this as I had unread messages from friends that he had opened and he admitted to it too.

My partner has also accused of lying about my finances and outgoings, even though he knows all of my outgoings but lies and says he doesn’t, I had given him a list of my outgoings, 3 times over a few months. But I never ask for anything like this from him. He also wanted me to print out a years worth of bank statements and payslips to give to him, when i refused to do this as I said he’s being unreasonable he held it against me and just said he didn’t know where my money was going, I’ve had to get a new car within the last year and because we were planning to get married and start a family I bought a family car, so my finances haven’t been great and my income was pretty much the same as my outgoings. My partner had a lot of inheritance money when he dad passed so he bought a very expensive sports car outright, so I feel he doesn’t understand how much I’m actually struggling with finances and I personally feel it was quite selfish that he bought a car that was completely impractical and leaving me with no option, when I would suggest a family car to him he would tell me it’s his money.

We have had 7 counselling sessions and the counsellor has told my partner that he’s being unreasonable, we have gone over the fact it’s his grief thats causing him to react this way, the counsellor told him that there is nothing more I can do and he needs to soothe his emotions otherwise if me and my partner end he will be like this in every relationship he has.

Fast forward 2 months and my partner has stopped looking through my phone etc, but we still have bad arguments, although my partner says they’re just discussions. We argue over intimacy mostly. I’ll be honest we very rarely have sex and that is probably mainly because of me. The first reason is whenever I feel my partner wants to have sex he will be nice to me, and then after we have had sex, a day or 2 later he goes back to his old ways, I’ve told him how I feel and he just blew up and accused me of accusing him of using me for sex, but got unbelievably angry and irate. The 2nd is the amount of times he’s accused me of lying, cheating or being shady makes me think why would he want to have sex with me if that’s the case and I don’t want sex with him because all he does is put me down and make up these horrible accusations.

I’m also really really struggling to try and move on from this, for the whole of last year it was constant. I feel like our relationship has completely changed, I don’t know if theres any coming back from this. Even when we have our good days I just don’t feel happy. I’ve expressed how I feel but he just doesn’t seem to listen, we own a house together and back in March he left for a week to see if he still wanted to be with me, when he came back we talked about things and I told him that I don’t see us getting married, so he said ok we’ll just postpone the wedding, but said he wants to be with me. I’ve told him that if we aren’t happy then we shouldn’t be together as it’s not fair on either of us, but just like in counselling i feel it goes in one ear and out the other. My partner has a go at me and tells me I need to move on and I need to get over it, but when he was grieving I didn’t tell him to move on. He’s also only recently admitted that it was his grief that made him react how he did, even though the whole of last year and during counselling he was hellbent on blaming eveything on me, he’s told his family and friends that it’s because of me, they all think I’m shady and he shouldn’t give me any more chances, but I haven’t actually done anything wrong. I haven’t had any apology and he doesn’t seem to have any regret or be remorseful over how he’s treated me. I saw a quote that said ‘if you don’t heal what hurt you you’ll bleed on people that didn’t cut you’ and this is how I feel. I feel angry, upset, hurt, confused and before the last year happened I felt I was stronger than ever, I had dealt with my delayed grieving, I was on the right path and now my partner taking his grief out on me to the extreme, has made me feel depressed. I just don’t know what to do.

OP posts:
CodenameVillanelle · 28/04/2020 07:08

He's been really abusive and you can't make a good, functioning relationship out of that. Time to cut your losses and move on.

AlwaysCheddar · 28/04/2020 07:22

End it. It’s shit now and you’re not even married. He’s an arse so leave.

Sewrainbow · 28/04/2020 07:32

I think it's time to move on, you've given a lot, tried hard and made lots of concessions to his behaviour.

He has not returned the effort to you. Don't marry him, he is not a nice person.

FilledSoda · 28/04/2020 07:59

Leave , he's no good .

Etinox · 28/04/2020 08:04

Don’t worry about the length of your post- a lot has happened.
He’s not a good man and it’s not a healthy relationship. You don’t mention children. If you don’t have any just concentrate on separating finances and getting on with your life. Flowers

balonzz · 28/04/2020 08:09

Do not marry this man. He is jealous and extremely unpleasant. Be prepared for him to be nasty when you tell him it is over.

Hanab · 28/04/2020 08:14

Was he having an affair when he was accusing you? Many a time on this site it has been proven đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž Run don’t walk away from him! What positive things are you getting out of this relationship? Is all this worth still being with him?

ScreamingKid · 28/04/2020 08:14

That's not grief. Hes just an arsehole. Get rid.

iano · 28/04/2020 08:20

I don't think he's grieving. I think he's an arsehole. You don't need his permission to break up.

Member984815 · 28/04/2020 08:30

What stuck out to me from your post was how unhappy you are , if you want to be unhappy for the rest of your life you can stay and allow it to happen or you can start making steps to leave him and move on

Oliversmumsarmy · 28/04/2020 11:02

Of course you can have male friends and he can have female friends it doesn’t mean you want to jump into bed with them. It is called trust.

But when you start accusing the other person and demanding to see their phone and bank statements then the trust is gone.

And it is more than likely because the accuser is the one who is cheating

When he went off to see if he missed you where exactly was he staying and what exactly was he doing.

I doubt you will ever get the truth because his friends and family are under the impression you are the untrustworthy one and will cover for him because they want to give him a shot of happiness and meet someone new so he can build a life without you.

Friendsofmine · 28/04/2020 17:23

For those who say you can have friends you don't sleep with. Of course you can but it is always a risk that a combination of different factors colliding over time leads to a gradual turning towards someone outside the boundary of the marriage who reflects back someone you used to/ wish to be...that's why so many people don't have affairs with randoms, but people who have been there in the background for a while.

Read Shirley Glass Not Just Friends to inform yourself.

BeautyinAutumn · 28/04/2020 17:32

Re read your post but imagine a friend was telling you about her life
Would you say it's fine?

zscaler · 28/04/2020 17:34

It sounds very toxic OP. Grief doesn’t give him the right to obsessively check your phone and bank statements, or to constantly accuse you of things you haven’t done. I really think you deserve better than this.

EKGEMS · 28/04/2020 17:55

Damn,what nonsense was posted above about the danger of married people being friends with the opposite sex having zip to do with the jealous,controlling and abusive behavior by this woman's partner.
He's an angry and warped man and currently beyond redemption until he wants to change which would involve intense psychotherapy but I would honestly say don't waste one more day with that jackass

Elieza · 28/04/2020 18:20

You’ve done everything you can to heal the broken relationship with him.

It hasn’t worked.

He’s still messed up and to be honest I don’t think he’s very nice at all. In fact he’s horrible. He doesn’t trust, believe or respect you.

You don’t want dc raised in such a relationship. As the saying goes, get your ducks in order and leave him. You deserve to be happy. He’s not the one.

rosamacrose · 28/04/2020 19:00

YANBU
I think you should get your tread moved to the Relationships board.
You'll see good advice there, it's more specific to your question. You'll see that you're not alone.

cakecakecheese · 28/04/2020 19:30

He followed you on a night with a female friend and made you print out your bank statements for him to trawl through. You realise how crazy that is? Grief doesn't give him an excuse to turn into a controlling nutjob.

Cherrysoup · 28/04/2020 20:08

He’s manipulative, controlling and abusive. I don’t understand why you are still with him. Grieving and being depressed does not equal being a complete wankstain to your partner. Do you want to live the rest of your life undergoing a fucking inquisition about where you’ve been, with whom, where has your money gone? Dear Lord, do not marry this twat or have dc with him.

Those of you whinging about the length of the post: seriously?!

merryhouse · 28/04/2020 20:19

You need to leave this relationship. Basically everything @PotholeParadise said.

And I'll add what I always do: you don't need to get him to agree that your reasons are good ones. He doesn't need to give permission. He doesn't need to understand it.

(Some people appear to think that criticising a post for length, or SPAG errors, or lack of paragraphs, or convoluted explanations, makes them look clever; the implication being that they would never make a post like that. The rest of us just think "well I managed to understand it, so I don't know what your problem is...")

longtimecomin · 29/04/2020 02:18

Get out now, he's clearly an arsehole and that wasn't grief, his mask has slipped and you can see the real person.

EmeraldShamrock · 29/04/2020 02:33

Yes it is definitely abusive OP. He sounds deranged. Leave as soon as you can then make plans. Men like him are always dangerous plotters when a separation is looming.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 29/04/2020 03:04

TBH, I don't think grief for someone he wasn't particularly close to and wished dead has a great deal to do with it.
He is a controlling bully, and you'd be better off taking his behaviour as a warning sign and getting out of the relationship ASAP and be thankful you had to call off the big expensive wedding day.

stringoflights · 29/04/2020 04:03

OP, I hope you're ok today?

@Thepigeonsarecoming - Biscuit you need to reassess your empathy

CJsGoldfish · 29/04/2020 04:25

Why are you justifying his shit behaviour by calling it 'grief'?

Doesn't sound like you should be together. Up to you.