To think we are a generation of moaners.

[Candodad]

With all the questioning and ignoring of rules AIBU to think is this generation existed during the war they’d be arguing against the blackout and other measures because they didn’t see the point.

I’m sure people moaned then as well.

Lots of people were right twats during the Wars - plenty arrested, masses of crime, huge black market

We now question people in 'high' positions more than we used to because we've learned that we don't have a lowly position as part of the natural order and we can't trust those in power. They are superior beings.

But the existence of the black market etc would suggest that we've always bent the rules.

Which is a good thing.

Which generation are you talking about? We're not all one generation. Also, there is nothing wrong with questioning things. I follow the rules, but having discussions about them is perfectly reasonable, especially when different countries are tackling the crisis with different rules.

Honestly, at least 50% of my DGP (who were all adults during the war) were bloody moaners. They moaned about different things than I do, but they moaned a lot. About the lazy youth, useless service people, stupid official advice, bad products, bad weather, bugs, bread that no longer tasted the way bread should taste, all this music we have everywhere these days, how hot it was, how cold it was, how much everyone moaned these days...

It’s funny that people think everyone was stoic and brave constantly throughout the war. It was hard, it was shit, people complained a lot - people robbed each other during the blackouts, rapes and murders spiked. Obviously most people did their best under the circumstances but it was still awful. Also it’s easier for the masses to follow measures when you’re getting bombed every night, rather than avoiding an invisible virus that some don’t believe is a threat because they’re healthy and haven’t caught it themselves.

"We" aren't one generation though. Do you just mean everyone alive today?

Which generation is 'we'? I think young people are a largely uncomplaining lot, look at how much they've had to stomach over the last few years, huge tuition fees, unaffordable housing, stagnant wages etc and they seem to be just getting on with it. With regard to coronavirus the vast majority of people across the generations are being pretty compliant. If the cost of that it the odd grumble then so be it, I imagine there was plenty of moaning during the war.

People then were like people now. There were those who did what they were told to do, those who questioned it, those who thought it was an overreaction, those who thought it was an under reaction, those who objected, and so on. Crime, abuse, black market, rude people, good people, utter twats, busy-bodies, etc all existed back then too.

People in "the past" were not all stoically compliant and rigidly working towards the greater good. I suggest you read some more books and learn a bit more about the subject before making sweeping generalisations based on a stereotyped version of the wartime years.

I think there are always people who will refuse to follow the rules. How is granny refusing to go into the air raid shelter any different to granny refusing to stay in during lockdown? ( i realise all ages break the rules. This is just an example)

People moan all the time, through every generation. We just didn’t have social media to share it around the world and record it in the same way.

You are moaning about people moaning right now.

My DGM also at least did trade on the black market, selling produce (they had some farm animals) and buying "luxury" goods. I'm told "everyone" did it, if they could. I really really doubt the generation as a whole sat around stoically doing what they were told and agreeing with their government as a whole.

Seriously all my family who lived through the war were massive moaners. One Nan moaned about a sugar bowl and a vest she lost in the bombing for 50 years

The other one moaned about being evacuated out to the countryside with her 5 kids from London. She came back after I think it was 4 months - basically as soon as she could. And decided to live through the Blitz in London with 5 kids under 8, rather than be in the safety of the countryside because London was ‘home’ wtf?. If she was alive now she’d be one of those twats wanting lockdown over, because she was convinced she was invincible.

"That made laugh. That the younger generation are generally an uncomplaining lot."

Obviously you haven't read the Guardian recently. I recently read an article about a teaching assistant who was fuming because they couldn't afford to buy a house in a nice part of London and they werent prepared to live anywhere else/give up their lifestyle expectations. (just one example)

Yes, because any generation for the last 50 years has been able to do so, on a low wage

Honestly, I would LOVE to see a WW2 version of Mumsnet..... we all idealise them as being strong, brave and getting on with it but I'll bet they moaned just as much as we did, and wondered when it would end and got fixated on the little things that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Obviously you haven't read the Guardian recently. I recently read an article about a teaching assistant who was fuming because they couldn't afford to buy a house in a nice part of London and they werent prepared to live anywhere else/give up their lifestyle expectations. (just one example)

I think writing off an entire generation of people because of one article is massively generalising and a bit shitty tbh.
I mean I work with a couple of ‘boomer’ generation colleagues who can’t convert word documents to pdf or do a basic expenses reports without help, but I wouldn’t write off an entire generation of people as being luddites because of those very few experiences. That would be very small minded of me, wouldn’t it? There are less capable and more capable people in every generation.

YABU

My parents are almost 80 and they complain about everyone and everything.
I know they're my parents but they can be absolute bellends sometimes with their constant complaints.

Speak for yourself! Yabu

YABU.

People have always moaned, it’s just now there are way more ways to moan other than in real life. Life is full of i.

All the moaning of not seeing bfs/gfs or having to help children with schoolwork etc must be grating for those that are ill or having to shield. We have all this technology plus are allowed to leave the house unlike other places.

All the moaning of not seeing bfs/gfs or having to help children with schoolwork etc must be grating for those that are ill or having to shield. We have all this technology plus are allowed to leave the house unlike other places.

People are allowed to find it difficult having to live with limitations on their normal day to day life, they're allowed to miss their friends and family, they're allowed to express these feelings. It doesn't negate the experiences of those who are ill or shielding, lots of whom will also be missing loved ones and bristling at the limitations on their freedom. No one should have their feelings shut down or ignored simply because there are others worse off.

There are people who moan and people who just get on with things in every generation. Also anyone who was an adult during WW2 is over 90 now.

Isn't it strange, when people who didn't even live through the war, feel as though they know how people reacted, behaved and felt at the time .
Also, which generation are you labeling as moaners?