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Have you ever had a calling from God?

324 replies

stanzaorganza · 24/04/2020 19:16

My neighbour is an accountant. He is 33, married to a lovely woman and has no children. They are both very Christian and regularly talk about God in everyday conversation ie. when they got married they could feel God’s presence etc.

He has recently had a calling from God to try a long held dream to become a singer. He says he has felt God leading him down this path and can no longer refuse him.

This is all great but what does a calling from God actually involve? What’s the difference between that and just deciding you fancy a career change? As a non Christian this is not something I have ever experienced but interested to find out.

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Russellbrandshair · 25/04/2020 12:11

@CharlotteCollinsneeLucas

Those are my beliefs too 👍

AlternativePerspective · 25/04/2020 12:13

I think the problem with Christianity and in fact any religion or mass which is dedicated to something is that many people will use that as a way to justify their cause,and invariably it’s those who shout the loudest who are heard.

So e.g.the amount of sexual abuse that has gone on and been covered up by the church,the amount of discrimination against homosexuals, single parents etc done because “in the bible it says....means that that is the image of Christianity that people see and believe to be what it’s all about.And part of that is because the Christians who just want to get on with their lives don’t want to be associated with it so don’t speak out.

It happens in other circles as well.People see any kind of activism as a portrayal of that cause,so when we think climate change we think extinction rebellion.When we think women’s rights we think radical feminism,even when we think trans rights we think MRA and everything that represents when in fact those are generally minority views but because they shout the loudest they are the ones who are noticed and seen as representative of that which they stand for.

Personally I don’t believe in God. And if I’m honest while I can understand why some people believe I don’t know why they would want to worship him. Any earthly parent who abused their children in the way that God apparently does would likely have been disowned by now. Any parent telling their child that unless they loved them, worshipped them, put them above all others or be damned would have only themselves to blame if their child then went no contact.Even if that parent sometimes did good in the name of that child,because generally that’s what people choose to see. They say “but God is good,” while ignoring the fact that if they don’t toe the line he will turn on them.

Personally I believe that religion was invented by humans as a form of accountability. Firstly because no-one wants to believe there is no life after death,and secondly, if people were led to believe that their deeds would follow them and that they could be accountable into another life then there was more chance that they live decent lives on earth.

I believe that many people take comfort in the idea of a loving God because it removes the realisation that we’re in this on our own. If you have an illness,a sick relative etc then asking for God’s help is possibly the only thing you can do, and believing that God is with you means believing that you’re not alone.

People should do the right thing in life because it’s the right thing to do, not because of what they fear might happen if they don’t.

I’ve seen too much talk about how people feel they must start to live in a certain way because “the end times are near,” as if they don’t have to live like it anyway? Confused

Hennypenny95 · 25/04/2020 12:16

Might be worth asking your neighbour about it OP. I'm sure if he's so openly happy to discuss his faith, he'll enjoy telling you the details and answering your questions.

YourNameIsSenNow · 25/04/2020 12:21

No but I feel an affinity with Satan.

Having been raised Catholic and abhorring the church and its systems, God himself mostly, may play into that.

I have a lot of Baphomet and Satan statues and art.

I'm not a bad person. Quite the opposite but I am drawn to him.

I'm an atheist BTW. I don't believe he exists I just like the lore around him.

Triggahippy · 25/04/2020 12:24

I’ve had real callings in my life. They aren’t from a Christian god or any other though.
Find the Christians who say that people who believe in messages from the ‘universe’ are misinterpreting it and it is actually their god a bit laughable as well as arrogant

Fedhimtotigers · 25/04/2020 12:25

@Beebie2 I do have questions. But nobody Can answer them. Which says a lot to me.

SpillTheTea · 25/04/2020 12:30

No, I don't think an invisible man in the sky is making my decisions for me. The only thing calling me is a cheesecake in the fridge and it's far more compelling.

SerenDippitty · 25/04/2020 12:30

Personally I believe that religion was invented by humans as a form of accountability. Firstly because no-one wants to believe there is no life after death,and secondly, if people were led to believe that their deeds would follow them and that they could be accountable into another life then there was more chance that they live decent lives on earth.

Also because life in previous centuries if you were poor was horrible, wretched, miserable and hard and only bearable if you believed in something better to come.

PurpleThistles84 · 25/04/2020 12:50

I have often mulled over the thought of a world where no suffering or evil happens. It’s a very idyllic concept.

As humans we experience varying extremes of emotion. I imagine that in a world with no suffering or evil, we may all be perfectly happy...and only that. No real joy, no real relief, no real gratitude...just plain old happy. I don’t like that people suffer, but I do think suffering has its place in our experience of being human.

Yes we are given in part a set of rules to follow, the Ten Commandments for a start. However Jesus gave us the only one that really matters. To love each other as He has loved us. We can apologise and ask for forgiveness when we get things wrong, however just like we teach our kids to say sorry, it doesn’t really count if you don’t even try to avoid doing the same thing again. We can also choose not to follow the rules. The concept of Hell is often the idea of flames and pain for eternity. However Hell to a Christian, is simply eternal separation from God. If the rules were terrible, I could understand the concept of it being abusive, however trying to love each other, not killing each other, stealing, telling lies and so forth isn’t exactly a bad thing.

The Old Testament is not overly applicable to gentile Christians, we are not Israelites, our ‘rules’ come from Jesus who came for the rest of us. It more gives us background and lineage.

UnaCorda · 25/04/2020 13:04

What I don't understand is why God would choose to ignore children suffering in Syria, or nurses dying of COVID-19, and instead turn his attention to "calling" an accountancy middle manager from Slough to apply to appear on The Voice.

TowandaForever · 25/04/2020 13:05

@BuffaloCauliflower

I don’t understand how you can be gay and Christian when the bible says homosexuality is wrong and a sin?

Not looking to fight. Just understand.

BuffaloCauliflower · 25/04/2020 13:19

@TowandaForever - Christianity rests on the words and promises of Jesus. Jesus never condemns homosexuality. He also challenges many of practices of the Old Testament (essentially the Jewish Torah, the holy book of his time) as being of man not God. In really simple terms, Jesus is the software update of God’s word. Christians who truly follow Jesus follow his words - anyone who comes to me comes to the Father. Love above all else. He never caveats that love as not for gay people.

BuffaloCauliflower · 25/04/2020 13:24

@AlternativePerspective your view of Christianity and God is indeed a horrible one if that was the case. God doesn’t turn on us and does not threaten to either, He is with us through all. He desires relationship with us and is sad if we turn away, but if we do He never abandons us. I certainly wouldn’t seek relationship with the God you present

TowandaForever · 25/04/2020 13:25

@BuffaloCauliflower

Thankyou. So Jesus would have loved gay people but would Jesus have thought being gay was acceptable? It’s ok to live as a homosexual?

BuffaloCauliflower · 25/04/2020 13:34

@TowandaForever Jesus never mentions it and I wouldn’t want to put words in His mouth, but I can’t see why not. We’re all made in God’s image, our sexuality is not separate from that. I work for a very charismatic Christian organisation and at least two of my colleagues are gay and living proudly. In my experience the only judgment comes from others calling themselves Christians but not actually following Jesus’ words to LOVE (this is a bit problem with the American ‘Christian’ Right, and I completely get why anyone would dislike Christianity if they’re basing their view on those people)

BuffaloCauliflower · 25/04/2020 13:35
  • big problem
LaurieMarlow · 25/04/2020 13:43

Jesus never condemns homosexuality.

St Paul does though. Vehemently.

BuffaloCauliflower · 25/04/2020 13:48

@LaurieMarlow yes unfortunately he does. But I’m a Christian not a Paulian Smile I also think we have to be aware of the social and historical context of the time in which the Bible was written, it’s a historical document and should have the same critical approach applied as other historical documents. The accounts of Jesus life are written by his followers not Him. This doesn’t detract from the message but does mean we need to consider everything that’s gone into it. I certainly wish Jesus had commanded his followers more clearly on this subject. But love each other, love all who come to me, should have been enough

Girlinterruption2020 · 25/04/2020 14:00

@compassunreliable

So, so accurate. It is almost the linguistic or contextual framework that you are taught to express your inner world in. If atheist you use some frame of reference to express this, if religious, slightly different language but it is the same stuff.

totallyyesno · 25/04/2020 14:01

No, I did once get a very quick answer to a prayer though!

Beebie2 · 25/04/2020 14:11

@BuffaloCauliflower

Thank you.

Succinct and easy to understand. I don’t think I could have explained it so well.

Merename · 25/04/2020 14:12

What I don't understand is why God would choose to ignore children suffering in Syria, or nurses dying of COVID-19, and instead turn his attention to "calling" an accountancy middle manager from Slough to apply to appear on The Voice.

Grin funny but also poignant and an important question.

BuffaloCauliflower · 25/04/2020 14:15

@Beebie2 thanks Smile it’s one I feel very strongly about having many close friends who are gay. Jesus words are what we should be listening to first and foremost.

Beebie2 · 25/04/2020 14:21

@Merename

So many churches/ Christians work in refugee camps. That’s their faith driving them to volunteer and provide food and shelter, often with their own funds, to support war torn nations.

Its not as extreme as God simply returning and stopping wars - but as it’s already been explained, that’s not how faith works.

Girlinterruption2020 · 25/04/2020 14:24

I’m with Beebie2 on this. Jesus is all about the love - his message is essentially ‘chill’ don’t stress the detail and focus on the broader strokes.

To me, it is about the ‘self’ - the religious guidance is about how to act from a position of ‘self’ and be defined by that. It is a very powerful, liberating thing as it puts your relationship with the world under your control - like an internal compass that always rights itself to where you need to go. You are you, and your sexuality is only one part of who you are.

It has always been this simple for me - if God created us (as the religious say) and he doesn’t make mistakes, then homosexuality must be part of his intention.

Who are we to judge?

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