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To be annoyed by this? (NHS thread)

82 replies

CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 12:50

My mam woke up this morning with reduced use/sensation in her arm. She rang me and I got a taxi to hers where we rang 111. Got told to head to a&e because they were worried it was a stroke.

Got there- the waiting room was totally empty. Nurse on the desk barely looked up as we explained why we were there. She asked my mam if she could lift her arm and mam showed how much she could (which I think is less than her usual range of movement)

We were then told to go home and ring the GP for a phone assessment which would lead to a face to face appointment. I again tried to explain that we'd used the 111 system and been sent to a&e to be told to go home again as the department didn't want to admit people due to the virus.

Got another taxi home and rang the GP who said it's not something they can really assess over the phone and to go to a&e. Mam explained what had happened so far and was told that the nurse at a&e was wrong and she should have been seen there. They arranged a phone consultation (which happened very quickly, to be fair) and the GP told her to go back to a&e.

It's cost me over £30 in taxis today, running back and forward between different points and mam is still no further forward. My sister has just been and picked Mam up and is with her at the hospital.

I'm so frustrated with the whole situation. The nurse on the a&e desk didn't even look at mam, just asked if she could lift her arm. I totally understand that they're under immense pressure but my area isn't badly affected- my town has around 100 cases confirmed. I'm worried that if it is/was a stroke all the messing on has ruined any chance of treatment she has.

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1Morewineplease · 24/04/2020 12:59

I’m sorry that you’ve had this worry.
I would have thought, at the very least, that a triage nurse could have had a quick look to see whether it may have been a stroke etc...
All the best.

CHIRIBAYA · 24/04/2020 13:03

So sorry to read of your experience and I hope your mum makes a speedy recovery. It doesn't sound much like A&E was overwhelmed and to acknowledge your distress should be a basic human response whether you are a nurse or not. Sadly deaths from strokes are not newsworthy right now and there WILL be avoidable deaths from other causes while Coronavirus takes precedence. Fingers crossed for you that this isn't serious.

Ihavenoregrets · 24/04/2020 13:04

Well yes obviously it is annoying but she is there now

CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 13:06

Thank you. We have a complicated relationship but I'm so scared for her right now.

Honestly, the nurse made me feel like I'd done something really bad but all we did was followed the advice given. My mam is disabled to start with and quite frail so all the extra stress hasn't helped!

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Nicknacky · 24/04/2020 13:07

It’s not just annoying, it’s downright dangerous.

I hope your mum is okay.

dontdisturbmenow · 24/04/2020 13:08

You say nurse on the desk. Do you mean the receptionist or an assessment nurse?

The former shouldn't be making a clinical decision. The former should do so after an assessment that includes asking a few questions as the bare minimum.

eeyore228 · 24/04/2020 13:10

I work in A&E, although quieter than normal it's also. very difficult to tell whether we actually have patients because we have had to section off areas to limit spread. That said we have at no point turned anyone away without doing some basic checks unless they are coming in with 2 yrs history of stuff. Your mum should have been seen the first time. Sorry you've had such a crap.day x

Ciwirocks · 24/04/2020 13:11

While I don’t think the nurse should have been dismissive or necessarily sent you home you can’t judge how busy an A&E department is by the waiting room. They will be likely running on reduced staff due to staff being off or redeployed to ICU or have lots of patients attend through the back door with suspected coronavirus. I hope your mum gets a full medical assessment today though and she doesn’t have to wait too long.

QuestionableMouse · 24/04/2020 13:13

Wow that's disgraceful. My local A&E is telling people not to stay at home if you have symptoms of a serious illness/condition. Your family must be so worried. Hope your mum is okay.

CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 13:23

@dontdisturbmenow,

She was a nurse (said on her badge). There was five or six of them behind the desk. The entire hospital was very quiet- even the car park was mostly empty.

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ladypete · 24/04/2020 13:24

That’s awful.
Isn’t the guidance treatment within 4 hours?
I’m sure your mum will be absolutely fine but that is very very dangerous on their part. I’m so sorry it happened

HappyHammy · 24/04/2020 13:27

Ring the hospital and ask for PALS to tell them your concerns

missyB1 · 24/04/2020 13:29

That was awful, there’s no excuse for your mum to be mucked about like that. If I was the GP I would be following up what happened to find out why your mum was sent away. It’s imperative that there is clarity about where patients can access help at the moment.

FabulouslyFab · 24/04/2020 13:30

Agree with @HappyHammy - ring PALS and make a complaint. The nurse needs some training.
Hope your Mum is okay x

brummiesue · 24/04/2020 13:33

Thats appalling behaviour from the nurse, your mum should have been checked. If she is still there get your sister to complain to the sister in charge, otherwise contact PILS.

JKScot4 · 24/04/2020 13:33

It’s a fallacy they’re overwhelmed, only Covid wards are, most hospitals have empty wards as all regular appointments are cancelled.

JaneTheVirgin · 24/04/2020 13:36

That is awful, I'm so sorry. And as a healthcare professional who works in A&E and ICU I think it is worthy of a complaint. I can't even imagine it happening in my department, I hope your mum is ok!!

CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 13:37

Just passed the tip about PALS on to my sister. She said they're waiting in a cubicle in the urgent care bit, mam's had bloods taken and been assessed by a nurse. So glad something is finally happening but it should have happened at 10am not 2pm. :(

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Mlou32 · 24/04/2020 13:40

Do nurses usually sit around the reception desk at A&E?

I'm.really struggling to believe that she was indeed a nurse. I'm not disputing what you're saying OP, I'm just confused at why a nurse wouldn't carry out an assessment and basically risk her career by sending someone home without even the most basic of assessments. Because failing to carry out a proper assessment could have had grave consequences. I'd get on to PALS if I were you.

I hope your mum is ok.

CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 13:41

Oh she also said that the only other patient in the urgent care bit is a man who has a broken arm.

I'm so frustrated by the whole situation. First the sheer waste of time- if it is a stroke, it's past the window for the stroke drugs to work. I'm hoping it's something else but even then she shouldn't have been waiting this long.

In general I think the NHS do a fantastic job but my god, I feel let down now. The nurse this morning honestly made me feel like crap for going in. :(

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CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 13:42

She was 100% a nurse. I had a clear look at her badge. I don't understand it either.

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Mischance · 24/04/2020 13:42

I had a hospital letter and phone call about something a bit complicated and a decision to be made. Was told to discuss with GP who knows my med history. Rang for phone appointment and was told I could not have one by receptionist. Gave up - rang the next day and spoke to a different receptionist who got on and made appointment.

There's always one - really. I have been in hospital many times and had excellent care from everyone - except one. Every time it is the same. Just one rotten apple. It really matters w
hen yo are ill.

Cornettoninja · 24/04/2020 13:54

I would definitely contact PALS and send them an email cc’ing the chief executive of the hospital.

Hospitals are still operational buildings where urgent care is available, there have been enough appeals from doctors to the public not to ride things about at home. There was no reason for a nurse to send you to the GP when they could easily complete the same assessment there and escalate immediately if necessary.

I hope your mum is comfortable Flowers

CalliopeCat · 24/04/2020 14:19

Apparently the doctor is going to see her soon. Still no real news though.

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QuestionableMouse · 24/04/2020 14:28

Really hoping for a good outcome for you @CalliopeCat