Friend trying to recruit me into her MLM scheme

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I have recently been made furloughed by the company I work in as the job role I work in is struggling to pick up work for employees. DH is working but has taken a 30% pay cut so finances aren't strong at the moment. I have a friend who has devoted her life to home working in the last year but quit her job in January to work as an MLM 'team member' whatever that is.

I am fairly active on social media, and so is she, on several local Facebook groups. I run one group where it is rather a safe space for members to post - excluding MLM schemes and any other schemes that exploit people. My friend is a part of the group and usually is a compliant poster. However recently she has been messaging me, asking me if I'd like to join her MLM team. She is a recruiter so makes money from recruiting other people and when they pay in, she gets a percentage. I have refused, and she has kept on insisting. Today I logged onto Facebook and saw that she has now tried to recruit my group members and I immediately deleted the post and got rid of her.

She sent a grovelling message saying it was 'totally unfair and rude as MLM offer good working incentives in this current situation'. I retorted back and told her that she is exploiting a lot of furloughed people and unemployed people to pay an absurd money so she gets money!! After that she stopped replying. However, another friend of mine sent me screenshots of my 'friend' ranting on multiple groups about me, and calling for people to troll me and send me death threats.

She's even sent me a bloody invoice of the monthly payments you have to pay in for the MLMs. I have now blocked her and anyone who is associated with her so she can't use them to get into my head. I am livid. Please share any stories you have of MLM recruitment, so I can feel better.

Surely she was BU about this as she is trying to force me to sign up?

that's what I paid haven't taken it from anyone, and saying that it was just defiantely worthwhile for me, and not a huge sum
So you’re not making money in sales or in recruiting. Way to personally develop. 🙄

@FilthyforFirth i'll definately recruit if I learn more because I'm having a positive experience both product and company, personally I never said doing it for kids, not even recruiting, I definately am interested in reaching out and getting people onto the prodcuts/ programs and see it as a side hustle for now maybe for another bit of income and a product that worked, especially health wise, something i've always been interested, anyone that joins team by me, obviously I would have their back. But each to their own. Seen the blog initially and said i'd share my experience.

Magic beans 😩

There's no product that make claims guys or a one size or product fits all as we know. @MintyMabel I have made my €60 back easily with this company.

Ah it's juice plus @2020Shamrock. Makes so much sense. Yes, of course it is brillant, healthy product. Why eat actual fruit and vegetables when you can swallow a pill of a billion of them?

I don't believe you have made a penny, unless you count buying the products for yourself or have downlines who are also, buying the products for themselves.

I have had to ditch so many people due to JP. The 'conventions' they hold are terrifying and it is all so cult like.

I have made my €60 back easily with this company.

Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else, hun.

Juice plus , awful company, just awful. The products are completely meaningless and have absolutely no nutritional merit at all. The “research” they wheel out is absolutely bogus. You’d be far better off taking a generic multivitamin tablet for a fraction of the price. There is some seriously dodgy shit going on with the way some of the senior bots conduct themselves. It causes some very serious damage among people who really can’t afford to lose money. If you ever quit watch the auto ship- a lot of people have money taken from them by JP months or even years after they’ve tried to leave. The FB group MLM Lies Exposed was originally called Juice Plus Lies Exposed because there was so much to say about their conduct.

A colleague is an Avon rep. She's upfront that it doesn't really make her money, just helps subsidise her make-up habit. Never tried to recruit. I have no problem buying from her if she has a product I want. Same goes for another lady who does Usborne books. Not interested in the MLM, but some of the kids books are good and if it as going to buy them anyway, I don't mind buying them from her.

ah guys ye really are going on hearsay, they recommend eating plenty fresh fruit and vegetables, more and more professionals are engaging with them, I personally have had such benefit with the products, I'm not here to sell or recruit on blog, just giving my experience so no need to be so nasty, I don't agree with anyone shoving anything down anyone's throat, and yes not that I have to justify but I did make my €60 easily back not something to be laughed at really, to me that was a start, no BS.

Nobody has ever tried to recruit me into being an Avon rep which is good. I don't think they can be classed as MLM. But haven't bought anything from them for years. Body shop seems to be entering into the realms of these recruiting schemes. Not good.

@YouokHun yes everyone has personal experiences like people see this thread for example and how nasty some are being, so just depends, I've had to ditch no one and no one ditch me.

Someone I went to school with added me to a Younique group a couple of years ago

Disclaimer, I am no expert, I don't wear makeup regularly but when I do it is subtle and it's not hard to remove if I do something wrong

This Younique lady that ran the page looked like a toddler had applied her vibrant smudged blue and green eyeshadow. Why she thought it would sell the products I don't know

Totally brainwashed

How has it improved your health, @2020Shamrock?
And if you aren't selling or recruiting, what's the point? 'Personal growth and development' isn't what people join for. Read some books or do a course and invest in yourself meaningfully?

They are all at it aren't they! My SIL was a horrific yoonique hunbot a while back, we all thought she'd seen the light but now she's been furloughed she's back on it... I've always made my views very clear but she's started trying to recruit me now. I responded with a link to Elle beau blog 😁

Juice plus, Herbalife, body shop are all popping up to. Ridiculous, if it was a) any good and b) worth anything near what they charge it wouldn't need an MLM to sell. Utter bullshit all of them.

My niece is doing extremely well with Arbonne - she has the white Mercedes, is one of the top two 'people' in the UK. Even now, she fills Instagram and FB with 'inspirational' talks and quotes. She demonstrates the products, and puts a lot of time in.
I still don't get it. The products are fine, but terribly overpriced, and it's all about the lifestyle.
She asked me a couple of years ago if I wanted to join - I just said I wasn't prepared to put the time in, and she never bothered me after that.
I'm sorry Op you've had all this trouble - it sounds awful

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@2020Shamrock there’s no nastiness here (unless you count the OP’s treatment by her MLM ‘friend’) but there is plenty of good calling out of MLM bullshit and rightly so. You don’t need to make wild health claims as JP corporate has already done that for you. They’ve had so many slaps on the wrist from ASA and MHRA for false claims for their products that I expect they’ve lost count. Why they are allowed to continue fleecing people I just can’t understand. Sorry, the products are bullshit and if you believe they work for you then that’s the power of placebo. botwatch.blog/2017/11/23/testimonial-use-in-mlms/

Younique, Arbonne etc are massive cultish ass hats. Avon however, in my experience as a student rep decades ago and recent customer is totally harmless. I have had people fall out with me on FB for slating and outing Younique methods after being concerned about it all. More fool them!

@YouokHun sorry but you don't come across as a psychotherapist, all I know is what it did for me no bullshit and no placebo because I don't do bullshit myself, @Notredamn just recruited there in the last hour, it's my first because I'm doing it at snails pace and at that I've got tons of messages just within the last week of people watching my page that had never even commented on, so was surprised at that, definately my own and kids eating habits have changed for the better, but my energy, and I'm not claiming one of their most expensive products I could if I wanted to sell, what I mean is I was just very surprised what you get for the €60 I just thought that amount is not alot to lost, but having looked at as you say other courses self development etc alot more expensive and I was just amazed. I've personally trimmed up the easiest I have ever done, but I'm not going to say it was because of a capsule, it's a combination of what it's helped me with, mindset, meditation, exercise, all the usual elements.

Icantbelieveitsnotnutter, Avon is now fully MLM so has all the same scammy hallmarks of the others. Younique and Arbonne are both grim. That white Mercedes is an illusion too, the “successful” Arbonne Hun takes out an expensive Lease plan and Arbonne gives her the money on a month by month basis but one slip up and the money isn’t paid and the Hun is left paying for it for the duration of the lease agreement -seen that happen more than once!

@Notredamn personal growth and development alot join for and even if they don't expect it are enjoying it, I get what you're saying you can do it all separately it's just I chose to give it a go after some not all products worked for me personally because it's had a knock on effect on me and my kids, and those around me to a degree. I find it's even opened alot more doors for me as someone else here in this blog said something similar, I'm not sucked in by anything, I'm an extremely grounded person and know what's important.

@2020Shamrock how is a psychotherapist supposed to sound? Say nice things to you and affirm what you believe? You’ll just have to assume I’m authentic.

not at all, but tell you what to think and when you knowingly don't do bullshit and know something worked for you and has been good, to what believe someone saying it's bullshit and it's placebo effect, look someone earlier said peddle your bullshit somewhere else, it's a blog we're allowed to give opinions no? And no one has yet answered me on this site alone you can pay a fairly hefty cost if you want to go to premium level. A blog like this is good to have a debate as such like this but as a psychotherapist if you can't see that some people on this blog alone were not nice then I don't know.

What blog?

The blog was originally about a bad experience with someone in an MLM giving someone a lot of hassle, I guess why I started to comment on this blog in the first place was just to say there's a lot of men and women in it and they are real, and stand by their help to others. So it was just to give people a different angle as alot was negative from experiences and I understand that I've been there myself, that don't judge the person on an MLM because not everyone is the same. That's all guys, alot of messages, so I'll probably read but won't reply now, that's all thanks.

@Notredamn thread sorry