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To think furlough rules for charities could be relaxed

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Acis · 23/04/2020 11:56

Current furlough rules require that people furloughed cannot do anything that will provide services to their employer or make money for them, which is obviously sensible. However, some charities have suggested that the rules could be varied. Many are having all sorts of financial problems and are having to furlough employees; people who work for charities tend to be committed to the aims of the charity and would like to volunteer to ensure that people they help aren't left high and dry. Charities that just can't shut up shop are in an impossible situation if they can't get any assistance with essential employees' salaries, and are potentially looking at having to close down. Government charity funding is limited to what is described as frontline charities, whilst lottery funding is limited to local ones - so small charities that don't restrict their operations locally but aren't deemed frontline can't benefit.

Allowing furloughed charity employees who want to volunteer for their employer to do so seems a relatively easy option, and limitations could be built in to ensure that costs don't spiral. Charities are going to be needed more than ever as we come out of this, with so many people losing their jobs and businesses, so action that enables them to keep going is likely to benefit the country in the long term.

What do people think?

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AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 24/04/2020 12:48

This is why charities have a whole separate scheme for government support.

They should not be abusing the furlough scheme

millymaple · 24/04/2020 12:49

This is why charities have a whole separate scheme for government support.

They don’t. A few may get a tiny bit of funding that amounts to basically fuck all.

They should not be abusing the furlough scheme

They’re not?!

Re eligibility: sorry misread something!

TabbyStar · 24/04/2020 12:55

Charities estimate that they will lose £4bn and the support package is £750m. Demand is increasing and will continue to increase for years as a result of this. The worst is yet to come IMO.

AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 24/04/2020 13:04

Better to use the scheme to pay the staff you want to continue to work than to abuse the furlough scheme by seeking the taxpayer to fund someone who is working. The scheme is to avoid lay offs, not to pay salaries to those who are working.

The scheme is not going to support all the loss of income. But it should allow key charities to continue to function. Yes, their application has to be successful - but that's still way better than saying some charities can abuse furlough and others shouldn't.

(And yes, a charity that matters to me is coming perilously close to haven't to close permanently. They are using furlough correctly, and have essentially shut up shop for the duration. It is not clear if they will be able to survive a lengthy closure, and if they do fold then their area of activity will have no coverage whatsoever for a wide area. Everything is down to the crowd funding (and 26.2 day) just to get the minimum to have a shot at recovering)

Acis · 24/04/2020 22:42

This is why charities have a whole separate scheme for government support.

It's limited to what are deemed front line charities. The majority of charities can't access it.

They should not be abusing the furlough scheme

No-one said they were, or that they should.

Given that you seem to acknowledge that charities need help to survive, what's your suggestion, @AllPowerfulLizardPerson?

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