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Old v New House WWYD?

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PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 10:44

Sorry, posting here for traffic.

Obviously this is hypothetical at the moment as no one can buy/sell but I was looking for some advice re houses. We currently live in a 4 bed end terrace in a Northern town. It’s a nice house with period features and good size bedrooms with features. The upstairs is large and downstairs has a smallish Victorian sitting room with a nice bay window/traditional fireplace and a good size dining kitchen. The staircase is central with a narrow hallway as we have an access passage to the back on our land, shared with next door (they come through our front garden to get to it). We have a decent size garden for a house of this kind with large patio, small lawn, space for a shed etc. There is also a small front garden.

I bought the house as a fixer upper 9 years ago for £100k before I met my husband and have spent around 40k on it with new bathrooms, new kitchen, new windows, restoring fireplace etc. It’s still not fully finished as the large attic room needs velux windows and redecorating and there are a quite a few other jobs that need sorting but I love the house.

We are now a family of 3 with a 14 month old. We would like another child in the next couple of years. While there is loads of space upstairs, we are fast outgrowing the downstairs, it was perfect for 2 but not so great for more. We could put an extension on the back to have a larger kitchen/dining living space but depending on how much this would cost, or if we would get planning permission, it would probably take the cost of renovations above the ceiling price of the street which is around £160-£170k for houses of this kind. It would also make the garden much smaller. Parking is a nightmare as it’s all on street and it’s not somewhere children could play out due to the busy roads. We also have some damp issues downstairs and around the chimney in the bedroom which will cost a fair amount to sort. The energy bills are very high too.

My husband is about to inherit some money and is keen to buy a new build locally to us. There are only a few houses left on a local new development, it’s nice, wide roads, decent parking and close to a huge park and brand new leisure centre. The house is just above £300k. I have never wanted a new build as I love period properties which is why I bought this one but it is a nice house with a south west facing garden. There is a green space adjacent and the people seem really friendly. There is a garage and parking for 2 cars. The builder also does part exchange at full market value.

Emotionally I am attached to this house but practically I can see the benefits of the new one. I’d love my DD to learn to ride a bike in the street and feel she can play out safely etc.

We have been looking at houses for a while. The detached period ones I like in the area tend to go between £300 and £450k depending on condition with the cheaper needing lots of work done.I’m not too keen on this as I know how much of a money pit they can be and right now we may not have the funds to throw at it. There are also not many around and detached ones are few and far between. I don’t want to buy a house built in the 60s/70s as I’m not too keen to be honest. We do want to stay in the area for now due to elderly/ill family.

I suppose this is a what would you do or do you have any experience going from old to new? Would you wait? We may miss out on these particular new ones as the inheritance is not through yet and depends on a house sale.

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Mascotte · 23/04/2020 11:38

Honestly, move to the new build. I’ve just moved to one after years of declaring my love for period properties, and what a difference! It’s cosy and cheap to heat. Easy to clean. It’s bright and cheerful and mine is spacious and really modern in design. The only downside for me is that there are too many young kids around 😂😂 But that’s definitely a positive for you. And the kids are always out in groups having fun.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 11:40

@PicaK Yes we have, that’s one problem. The catchment is the same for our current house, both primary and secondary are good but the new house is further away so I’m worried we would be lower priority.

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PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 11:40

@Mascotte 😂😂😂

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lowlandLucky · 23/04/2020 11:41

my DH worked on many new build sites for many different companies and he would never buy a house that was built after the mid 80s.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 11:42

@lowlandLucky That’s interesting!

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Oliversmumsarmy · 23/04/2020 11:42

TimetohittheroadJack

I have to disagree on there being more parking

We have looked at new builds and those that are a few years old and we could never buy one as we look at them and think where would we park?

I think it is ok if you are a 2 car family, you don’t have older children who drive and your work doesn’t have a separate work vehicle

We have 4 cars and a large van. A new build or anything built on an estate is not for us

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 11:49

@Oliversmumsarmy I think generally parking is poor on most new build estates. Strata seem to be some of the worst for that!

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Wexone · 23/04/2020 11:56

I agree with @timetohittheroadjack, my partner is a builder. Regulations have improved so much. Insulation has to be a certain thickness, have to have some form of renewable energy etc. The standard of new homes is unreal in most cases. In a new build myself, I have underfloor heating, triple glazing, solar panels. Its so economical to run and very warm in the winter. I don't know what new build you were in @Oliversmumsarmy for your air b and b but most new builds don't have radiators anymore. In my house 5 years now and the only maintenance had to be done is painting this year, mainly to keep himself occupied during lockdown. My mother in law lives in an old house and its a money pit, layout doesn't work really either but as its just her no point changing it. Heating is about 1000e a year aswell as a hug electric bill. something big usually needs to be fixed every year. I would go with a new build

TimetohittheroadJack · 23/04/2020 11:56

@Oliversmumsarmy I guess you are right but I affording a period house with room for 5 vehicles and bedroom space for 2/3 older children is no going to be cheap.

Bargainhuntbore · 23/04/2020 12:32

New build on an estate is my hate home. Build and design your self is great.

My house is 350 yrs old. Not really a money pit but full of character, history, condensation issues in the corners of the kitchen as the walls are stone and cold and no matter how open the windows are, it doesn't work. Wonky walls, weird level on the skirting boards. List goes on.

But id never swap it for a boring straight new build

TerrorWig · 23/04/2020 12:41

I think you’re being a touch ridiculous. You have a 4 bedroom house, why on Earth you would consider that potentially ‘too small’ if you have another child I don’t know. But then I live in a small three bed terrace with three kids and no garden.

I wouldn’t move to a new build. I like the idea of not having to do anything at all with it, but that’s about it.

So if I were you, I’d stay put.

2bazookas · 23/04/2020 13:00

I suppose this is a what would you do or do you have any experience going from old to new? Would you wait?

I'd wait and sit tight. These are uncertain times. The economy, employment, mortgage rates, incomes, and the housing market could all change hugely in the next year.

We have a lot of experience buying houses (8), from very old (250 and 100) to 1960s and newer houses. Some of both were solidly built with excellent materials and well designed , so age itself is not a deciding factor to us.A trusted lawyer to handle searches , negotiations and conveyance is worth their weight in gold. Ask experienced and reliable friends for recommendations (or barge-pole warnings).

Lefkosia · 23/04/2020 13:01

they're generally built to last their warranty period

If I drive past my house in 8 years I can guarantee it'll still be standing. Honestly what a stupid thing to say. People are such snobs about new builds. And they always have a builder mate who would never ever recommend buying a new build but they don't actually have any proper experience

HollowTalk · 23/04/2020 13:11

Is the new build a detached house?

Zaphodsotherhead · 23/04/2020 13:36

I've found new builds tend to have spit and tissue paper walls. When I was looking to buy I wanted a terraced house but stipulated it HAD to be over 100 years old (because I didn't want one where I could sit and listen to the TV with the neighbours).

DD1 lives in a new build semi and the walls are very thin. Whereas I, in my 100+ year old cottage, can only hear the neighbours when their dog barks. I sometimes have to look outside to see if their car is there, it's the only way I know they're in.

Stay where you are and put an extension on, OP.

RainMustFall · 23/04/2020 13:37

I wouldn't even consider a new build for the reasons stated above, plus my friend found that under the top six inches of soil in the garden, they had dumped all the building rubble which took an age and a fortune to remove.

My last move was to a 1970s house which has so much storage space I could never fill it in a lifetime. You aren't going to find that in a new build.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 13:38

@TerrorWig I don’t think I’m being ridiculous to be honest but I do understand your comment. The house is big upstairs but we would prefer more room downstairs and the potential to extend is limited. Simple as that. We can afford bigger so why live cramped when we don’t have to? We live in a relatively cheap area of the country. I agree though, staying put would be fine too. This is definitely a ‘family home, it’s just limited on the space downstairs which we’ve found difficult when hosting Christmas/with all DD’s things etc.

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PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 13:39

My current house was built in 1892 and I do love it as I’ve said before!

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Lefkosia · 23/04/2020 13:39

I never hear my neighbours in my mid terrace new build. It's not a given that they'll be terrible quality it's down to the builder and if it's part of a big company, the site manager.

Best thing to do would be to knock on some doors of people already living in the houses and ask them what their houses are like.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 13:44

@HollowTalk Yes they new one is detached.

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Curiosity101 · 23/04/2020 13:49

@PurpleFlower1983 You don't need to apologise for wanting something bigger.

We're in a good size 4 bed detached 1970's house. Our downstairs is noticeably smaller because part of upstairs is built over the garage. We have the same as you downstairs - a decent sized kitchen diner and a separate living room. I still dream of a house with an en-suite off of the master bedroom, a utility room, an extra reception room downstairs, and a double garage. I'm just not sure I can be bothered with the faff of moving to get it and my DH is happy with our house as it is Grin

AJPTaylor · 23/04/2020 13:50

I have owned
Victorian 3 bed terrace
1973 built 3 bed semi
1977 4 bed detached
2005 4 bed detached
The best built by a mile is the 2005 house. The worst was the 1977 one.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/04/2020 14:00

@Curiosity101 We would really love a utility room and a downstairs toilet. Another room downstairs would be an added bonus as we could have a playroom.

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SuitedandBooted · 23/04/2020 14:36

If the new build would only be a stop-gap house, I would want the price to be really low. How will you make a profit on it? Can you add value - I doubt it. Don't forget you are paying for the shiny new bits, (a bit like new cars) and they devalue as soon as people use them.

BUT, if it is a desirable area, with shops and no problem with decent schools it might be a good move. You current house sounds lovely, (mine is old too), but not great for a family vis outside space, road, parking etc.

PinkCrayon · 23/04/2020 14:46

All new build estates are different, my one has lots of parking and I myself have a large drive way for 4/5 cars, ours has been designed so the kids can play out safely with green space.
Its lovely getting the keys to it when it's all brand new no work to have to do you can just move in and enjoy it.
I would go for the newbuild op.

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