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Husband. Health. Helpfulness (lack of?)

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LouisaMusgrove · 19/04/2020 09:45

My husband is 10 years older than me and the age difference is enough to put him in the vulnerable category.

Nonetheless he is very fit and healthy - taking a lot of exercise - and some tests he did revealed that he had the metabolism of a man 15 years younger than his actual age. He liked to boast about this

However, as soon as Covid-19 came along, he was (rightly) concerned. He dropped all the boasting about how young he was and declared his intention of putting himself into lockdown as soon as this was advised - this was about a week before the general lockdown. This was a declaration. It wasn't framed as, 'This is what I think I should do, despite my excellent health. How do you feel about the way it will impact on you and our liives togeher?''

For the first week I was working and also - like many people - dealing with trying to buy food for us both at a period of panic buying. Then we went into lockdown and supermarkets got more organised. However, I am now the one who has to deal with queuing up for groceries. It's as if I am the one who has to take all the risk of carrying out essential tasks, while he sit back and lets himself be looked after.

I should add that he's never smoked and has no underlying health conditions. It is simply his age and sex which puts him at risk. My own health background is that I had a severe viral illness when I was younger and can still get very hard hit by viral infections. So though I'm younger and less at risk because of being female, my health history is probably worse than his.

It's a small thing that has broken the camel's back. Normally, if my husband was cooking - we take this pretty much by turns now that I'm not working - he would either go out and buy what he needed freshly or get something out of the freezer first thing. We are now planning what to cook for some days in advance, I'm buying everything and freezing the meat and fish. (He likes to cook with meat, chicken etc - I tend to cook more vegetarian stuff.)

What has been happening though, is that when it's his turn to cook he forgets to defrost the ingredients he need. And I really don't want that additional task of reminding him on top of the responsibility of shopping. So a few days back there was a lot of panicky defrosting of minced beef and frozen sauce in the microwave, by late afternoon. This morning again, I realised he'd not remembered to get pork out of the freezer, and I decided to prompt him - not wanting to deal with the possible problems of hasty defrosting. 'Isn't there something you've forgotten? Something domestic?' The same thing that you forgot to do on Wednesday and then had to deal with in a hurry?'

He really didn't get it, so in the end I told him.

But I'm not going to remind him again. Next time if he forgets it'll have to be beans on toast. If we have enough bread. Or beans.

There are limits to how much looking after I am prepared to do.

OP posts:
EmeraldShamrock · 19/04/2020 12:42

Write the menus for the week out and stick them on the fridge along with who is cooking, easy
Understandable if he was a child or had a learning difficulty. He is capable of cooking he doesn't need a visual board, he knows the days he is cooking.
How many men need to do this for their compos mentis wife.

user1495884620 · 19/04/2020 13:51

I don't see why you have to be a child or learning disabled to use some sort memory aid, whether that be a list or an alarm or some other method. Lots of people use diaries, shopping lists etc because it isn't possible to remember everything, especially if it's a mental load that he hasn't had in the past.

EmeraldShamrock · 19/04/2020 14:02

@user1495884620 It is no problem for him or any adult to create a memory aid to use.
I was referring to his wife having to do this for him. I have to use visual aids with my DC with SEN. He is a grown man let him set his own dinner reminders.
Thread after thread of mollycoddle men.

user1495884620 · 19/04/2020 14:12

The OP says "we do the planning". She doesn't need to baby him, they just need to be noting things at the time so nothing gets forgotten. It doesn't matter which of them does it. Perhaps they could take turns to make notes.

EmeraldShamrock · 19/04/2020 14:15

I wasn't referring to the OP post in my post. It was a pp's suggestion.
Write the menus for the week out and stick them on the fridge along with who is cooking, easy

PlanDeRaccordement · 19/04/2020 14:30

Does it really matter if the food is defrosted in the fridge overnight or the day of in the microwave? Your DH is still getting dinner cooked and on the table on his days. I don’t understand the problem. It just sounds a lot like you want him to do things the way you do them. I agree, don’t remind him. I do, however, agree with you guys writing out the menu and posting it on the fridge as a memory aid. Doesn’t matter who write it out, one of you do it when you’re discussing what to buy and fir what meals.

As for you doing the shopping, that’s a given if he is vulnerable. If you think you are vulnerable too, then you both need to reach out for community support or to get grocery shops to deliver. The whole conversation you posted about “how do you feel about this, is it fair?” seems irrelevant to me because it’s a pandemic and those who are able just do what needs to be done to support those not able. Feelings and fair don’t come into it. Imaging asking doctors and nurses that question!

LouisaMusgrove · 19/04/2020 14:36

There is some evidence which suggest defrosting meat in the microwave isn't the safe method. I think it's preferable to defrost it by letting it thaw. (Less of a potential problem with vegetable dishes.)

I think if we're looking after our health at this time, it's better to minimise the risk of bacterial food poisoning.

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Phineyj · 19/04/2020 16:09

I can see where you're coming from. My DH has had pneumonia several times and is overweight, so is higher risk than me (we're in our 50s and 40s respectively). He also unilaterally decided he would not leave the house and has not done so for a month and counting. This means I get to do all the food shopping (which he was doing previously) and my parents' shopping (they are over 70) which in the normal way of things he would have helped with. Added to needing to do our jobs from home and attempt to educate our primary age DC, it feels like quite hard work and I am resentful he won't even go to the corner shop for milk.

However, he has done a fair whack of the childcare, cleaning and cooking and has mail ordered some stuff (mostly only things he likes though - muggins here orders all the actually useful stuff).

The unilateral bit is the annoying part.

PlanDeRaccordement · 19/04/2020 23:42

Louisa
What evidence? I can only find studies that’s compare thawing on counter (bad) versus thawing in refrigerator (ok). But none that say defrosting in microwave increases food poisoning bacteria/risk.

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