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To ask if you have heard of or use the expression “all found”

100 replies

Flossyfloof · 18/04/2020 12:47

We were discussing the need for fruit pickers this morning and wondering where they would be housed. I suggested that the job would be “all found”. Partner has never heard of this. I don’t think it’s that unusual, is it??

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LindainLockdown · 18/04/2020 13:45

Not heard that of that one.

ConferencePear · 18/04/2020 13:47

It used to be commonly used - it diminished when those kind of jobs finished.

dogsdinnerlady · 18/04/2020 13:51

Usually used when offering live-in jobs such as a housekeeper. Means accommodation, bills and food.

Tighnabruaich · 18/04/2020 13:52

Yes, I've heard of it and read it in several places/novels/job ads. I know what it means, but I don't think I've ever used it.

carnivalisover · 18/04/2020 13:54

yes.

mumwon · 18/04/2020 13:55

in services & yes but usually that means a lot lower salary

saraclara · 18/04/2020 13:56

Yep. I've heard of it. There are maybe fewer jobs now where it's offered, which might be why others haven't. But yep, it's an absolutely standard term to me.

Toothsil · 18/04/2020 19:30

Never heard of it

AlltheRs · 19/04/2020 09:13

Very standard term for live in jobs positions usually in hospitality or housekeeping type jobs. Means you can't be charged any extra for bed, bills or board.
Once upon a time could apply to seasonal jobs like fruit and veg picking.
It used to be a good solution to lacking a home and needing to save money. Then unscrupulous employers realised they could make bigger profits by charging for 'services.'

I experienced the changeover from 'all found' to 'live in deductions' in a large Watney's multi bar venue bar ( Richmond, S.W.London) in the 80's, when plywood dividers where put up in an upstairs function room that had been dorm style accommodation.
It created supposed independent rooms allowing rent, food and bills to be deducted from the bar staff's wages. Food was a nasty mark up on the left over bar food - Brake Bros frozen food that had been sat in Bain Maries for hours, and the chips from the music venue that hadn't sold.
Because of the hours worked and rules on when staff had to be on the premises, there wasn't anywhere else staff could get get food after their shift and it was charged regardless of it was eaten.
Fruit and veg pickers who brought their accommodation with them and cooked for themselves started being charged ground rent, water and fire pit costs after live in portacabins and caravans and other facilities provided by farmers started to be charged for.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/04/2020 09:15

I have, in the context of food and accommodation provided.
Can’t say I’ve heard it for a long time, though.

Cnoc · 19/04/2020 09:18

Yes, but these days it’s pretty archaic.

PleasantVille · 19/04/2020 09:18

Never heard of it, thank you for adding to my knowledge for the day already Smile

IDefinitelyHaveFriends · 19/04/2020 09:21

I know it from older novels but haven’t used it myself. Nowadays you can only make a pretty small deduction from minimum wage requirements to allow for food and accommodation provision (except for au pairs) so it’s a bit different.

TKAAHUARTG · 19/04/2020 09:21

I have not heard that expression, but it is pretty easy to work out what it means from the context. Did he get it?

PineappleDanish · 19/04/2020 09:23

Never heard of it, but have never worked in agriculture or that sort of seasonal live-in work.

AdoptAdaptImprove · 19/04/2020 09:23

Yes, absolutely. I’ve used it, too.

GeraniumJohnsonsBlue · 19/04/2020 09:24

Never heard it. Not a clue.

Jennifer2r · 19/04/2020 09:50

Most of those jobs are not, board and food included

Smileyaxolotl1 · 19/04/2020 09:55

Never heard of it, am an avid reader and also did a good with accommodation included.
Could it be regional?

Smileyaxolotl1 · 19/04/2020 09:56

Did a job that should say

luckylavender · 19/04/2020 09:56

Never heard of it

Pilcrow · 19/04/2020 10:03

Yes, I'm familiar with this expression - but it's not commonly used nowadays, I'd say.

longearedbat · 19/04/2020 10:04

I had an all found seasonal job in 1975. My pay was £9 a week and I lived with the family I worked for. The mother was a wonderful cook and I came home at the end of the season as a suntanned blob.

Spacie · 19/04/2020 10:07

I've heard of it in the context of Victorian apprenticeships. I think it finally went away with the introduction of the NMW.

Gatehouse77 · 19/04/2020 10:12

Never heard of it and worked as a nanny for 11 years!