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To think the UK is losing a lot of soft power?

209 replies

alloutoffucks · 17/04/2020 13:38

The UK has always had a certain reputation in many countries abroad of being competent and organised. That reputation translates into soft power. It beings increased respect for British businesses and business people, and helps foster trust.
Of course it does not mean that every British business person or business is respected or trusted. But the assumption that Britain in general is competent and organised does affect people's assumptions and views of British business.
I think that is eroding fast. Every friend and family member abroad I have spoken to has see that video of the nurse crying and I have been asked a few times why our supermarkets are empty of food (I know they are not, but that is the impression some of they now have). They ask me why British people are not co-operating when in their own country there is no evidence of stockpiling and the only shortage is hand sanitiser. They ask me why we don't have enough PPE for medics.
Some of these questions are by people who pay attention to the news, but everyone has seen the video of the nurse crying.
So AIBU to think Britain is losing a lot of soft power and that this will have an impact on British businesses abroad.

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Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 15:23

So all forty of them have asked about this, have they? How about even 20 of them? Okay...ten?

Have you heard of social media, Ann? Its possible to hear the opinions of friends and family who live all over the world. They can comment on news articles etc. So yes, I know the opinions of plenty of people who are wondering what's going on with this country.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 15:25

I watch the press conference every day and it amazes me how the second it finishes the reporters start putting their own spin on it.

Do you think its important to hold politicians to account or not? Do you think when the Govt make promises, they should keep them or is it ok to just lie? Would you like the media to report only what the Govt says?

Clavinova · 18/04/2020 15:25

Personally i think Britain's problem is the press i genuinely think they are doing real damage to our reputation and are causing mass hysteria at a time when we need them to be unbiased and reporting facts.

Yes, I agree.

alloutoffucks · 18/04/2020 15:27

No all 40 sent me a telegram asking about it.

In reality we are all in a whatsupp group. Someone talked about it and I was surprised that they were all saying they had saw it.
This does not mean I think everyone abroad has seen it. But yes some could not name who the UK PM is and had seen that video.

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alloutoffucks · 18/04/2020 15:28

@Clavinova The BBC are just a mouthpiece of the government at the moment and giving them a very easy ride.
That is why people are sharing what Piers Morgan says. Can't stand the man, but at least he is asking the questions many of the public are thinking.

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AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 15:29

Why are you ashamed to say your nationality alloutoffucks?

Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 15:30

Why are you ashamed to say your nationality alloutoffucks?

Why do you conclude its anything to do with shame?
That's weird.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 15:31

Embarrassed then? Doesn't want to seem like a hypocrite? Something is stopping her....

Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 15:32

causing mass hysteria

Do you mean there is mass hysteria in the UK right now?

Um. There isn't.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 15:32

What do you think it might be Helmet?

Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 15:33

Loads of people don't say where they are from, for privacy reasons.

Is it Clavinova, who lives in Australia but is one the more ardent brexiteers on this site?

alloutoffucks · 18/04/2020 15:34

Why would I share such detailed info when it is complex and none of your business?
I know why you want to know it. You want to say the country I was born in is getting things wrong, as if that matters at all to the discussion.

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EmmaBridgewater20 · 18/04/2020 15:42

Agree with @araiwa

@Oliversmumsarmy - award for spectacularly missing the point of the thread goes to you.

TheSandman · 18/04/2020 15:47

The BBC are just a mouthpiece of the government at the moment

At the moment?!

To think the UK is losing a lot of soft power?
AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 15:48

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AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 15:54

Well it's a fair question. She has repeatedly said that the UK is a 'laughing stock' so one can't help but wonder why she stays, given that she is not British.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 15:55

I just want to know what other countries you are comparing us to, to find us so lacking alloutoffucks

Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 16:04

how extraordinarily defensive of you.

rather than looking at the claim that was are losing influence, or that our response to covid is poor, or that brexit will weaken us, you just want to pick pick pick at the op.
its really not an intelligent look.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 16:30

Im pick, picking at the OP because I am a bit sick of her pick, pick picking at the UK. Given that she says she's not British I assume nobody is making her stay here? She finds the UK distinctly lacking in many areas as far as I can tell, so I just wondered what the hidden attraction was, that was keeping her here, and which countries she considered were doing everything better.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 16:38

I also can't understand why she won't say what her nationality is. Privacy is not a good enough reason, I'm asking for her nationality not her bank account details.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/04/2020 16:42

ok so only certain people may discuss the direction the uk is going in.

whats the criteria? i want to see if i fit ok.

Theduchessstill · 18/04/2020 17:04

Your comments have a distinctly unpleasant undertone to them, Ann. It's possible to live somewhere, broadly like it and/or have various reasons for staying, none of which are anyone else's business, and to criticise elements of it. In fact, the fonder you are of somewhere the more agonising it is to watch it repeatedly damaging itself with a series of misinformed decisions. A healthy democracy can cope with criticism and questions about its conduct. Your thin skinned, defensive attitude is just proving the point of the OP.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 17:38

I think it's pretty cowardly to repeatedly criticise a country you live in as a guest, regardless of the specific circumstances of that, but to refuse to dislose your own nationality when asked, in cse anyone should might direct similar criticism back at your own country of origin. Pretty shitty.

AnnUumellemahaye · 18/04/2020 17:40

More than once the OP has referred to the UK as a laughing stock, disorganised, failing etc.

I'd love to know just how much of a disorganised, failing laughing stock we are compared to wherever she was born.