To think the reason why runners appear so rude...

[stayathomewannabee]

Is because seasoned runners know to give people space on our runs... pre Covid 19.
There are a lot of novice runners out atm as people attempt to stay/get fit and maybe aren't used to etiquette?
Or are so knackered that they can't see ahead to move out of the way.

I've found it to be a regional thing.

It may be. Similar sorts of stories with runners, cyclists, dog walkers... the majority of all hereabouts are considerate and courteous, with just the odd bad one.

I always greet people I pass when running. Always have done. In my circle of running friends it is very much the done thing.

I have always been the one to make sure I go “out of the way” for others and do so even more now.

There are rude people in all walks of life but in the past few weeks we have actually noticed how much more polite most people seem

Perhaps runners on pavements in today's scenario are comparable to cyclists on pavements in yesterday's scenario?

People talk about the entitlement ofs runners but in fact I think the problem with entitlement is on the part of pedestrians who somehow feel entitled to the sole and uninterrupted use of the full width of the footpath.

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I've got to first run of week 4 today - it's a ramp up!

I think some people do take up running and then think they know it all, especially when they then start doing parkrun and start preaching to those of us who've been running it for a decade about parkrun's ethics. Granny, eggs and sucking come to mind, love.

But on the other hand you get the "professional" runners who think they own the path. My DH still likes to talk about the time he was told to f-ing get out of the way in a race. I'd have tripped the a-hole up, but DH is more polite than I am.

So it's people, not runners, and not new runners or old runners. Some people have awareness of their surroundings and watch out for other people, some people don't.

Perhaps runners on pavements in today's scenario are comparable to cyclists on pavements in yesterday's scenario

It may be perceived as such, but cyclists were never meant to be on the pavement, whereas runners are perfectly entitled to use the pavement. It isn't about how fast you are moving, it's whether you are using two feet or two wheels.

I dont agree. There are many runners on my route to work. Pre covid they skimmed past you, came up behind etc. Post covid they are doing the same. Its just that it is now considered rude.

I think running is by its nature selfish. People are only doing it for their own entertainment or health, it’s not a socially beneficial activity. Quite the opposite

I nearly got run down on a narrow pathway yesterday by an idiot cyclist and his daughter. Ordinarily I'd have stepped aside when I heard them approach behind me but this pathway couldn't have been more than a metre and a half wide and they STILL overtook took me, so closely in fact that their handlebars barely got past my arm. Was so unbelievably stupid. We were literally next to a road as well, they could have just cycled there.

Seasoned runner here and loving all the friendly runners that have emerged. Almost everyone I pass acknowledges me and returns a nod and hello.

Enjoying it!

@NeverForgetYourDreams I am really enjoying it. I used to be able to run and I'm feeling like I'm really getting back into it.

I have much more problem with walkers. Out for my run today, came across a family - 2 parents, pram, 1 kid on scooter, 1 on a bike. I was already running along the outside pavement edge of the wide pavement. The five of them completely spread across the whole space, and as we approached each other, no attempt WHATSOEVER to move over to the other side of the pavement. So instead of hopping off the pavement a bit, I had to go right into the middle of the road. Totally baffling behaviour from them. All this propaganda about rude runners is emboldening everyone else to be really rude and unreasonable!

Lots of experienced runners acting like —twats— they own the path before covid.

I went for a cycle and to be honest it was people walking and driving who were the rudest.

People walking in the cycle lane and refusing to move.

I was also nearly killed when a motorist decided to drive across the cycle lane to nab a parking spot. Clearly had not even looked to see of there was anyone in the cycle lane, or saw me and expected me to break.

Agree Covert20. On my walks in the park it's been other walkers who are the problem, the runners seem to be going out of their way to give space. The majority of couples and family groups walk 2 abreast and won't make any space for others. I've been surprised at how many unfit older couples are close passing considering the risk to themselves.

Just to add, there is a pavement near me that extends to over a mile where the pavement is designated as a cycle path as well as being a pedestrian path. The path is not split so it is dual usage. However, the pedestrian always has to move out of the way of the cyclist as the cyclists feel vindicated that they are allowed to ride freely on the pavement.
Drives us walkers, ramblers, slow walkers, parents with prams or pushchairs and elderly folk with walking frames or sticks bats!

Pushing hard can make you a bit tunnel visioned, but for injury's sake it's not a great idea doing that too frequently anyway, and the general puffing like a steam train gives advance warning of the approach, and the glazed beetroot look is another good give away.

The bigger issue is that there is more than a fair share of arseholes in the world and they tend to turn up in most activities going. It's easier to remember the arsehole runner than the 5 that were pleasant and responsible.

My bigger issue whether I'm running or walking is the superglued couples or socially distanced family groups occupying the pavements in relentless formation. I have passed these within 2 metres because I'm blowed if I'm going knee deep in the undergrowth or down the white line of the road to avoid a dick who won't pull in another metre or so when it's perfectly possible.

Please bear in mind that when a runner moves into verges (especially those that have not been cut yet and the long grass is obscuring dips, humps and litter) that they are risking trips and twists/ sprains, more so than a walker.

It has been (depressingly) enlightening to discover that some walkers believe that runners don't belong on pavements and are obligated to give way to walkers (doubly tedious as some move unbelievably slowly-often not to do with invisible disabilities although that's not possible to conclude individual by individual).

The world is a better and happier place if we all mutually look out for eachother at whatever speed we travel at.

I a, lucky (or thought I was lucky) in that my local paths are split and the cycle lane is clearly marked as separate form the pedestrian walkways.

People still insist on walking in in, or walk on the pedestrian lane and walk their dogs in the cycle lane😡. I veer off onto the grass to avoid them and they still look at me as if I am in the wrong.

People still insist on walking in in, or walk on the pedestrian lane and walk their dogs in the cycle lane

My dachshund is under the impression that the white line between the pedestrian and cycle lanes on a path we use (normally, not in range now) is a special smooth lane for his personal use, he walks very neatly straight along it. We do get him well into the foot side if a bike is coming, of course.

Aww Errol if I saw him prancing along the white line it would me smile😊.

It would, but there's always an off chance he'll decide to rearrange himself across the path and take up 3 feet instead of a few inches so better safe than sorry!

I must say nearly all the other runners I see are really pleasant. We give each other a solidarity wave and a smile as pass one another puffing away!

No problems with runners where I am and there's a lot of them and I say this as someone who did run and is using my furloughed time trying to get back to it.

Runners here do the nod to each other or to walkers who move. The worst problem here is bloody families taking up the entire footpath and just refusing to budge in to single file. I've not been out frequently at all but the looks I was given when I walked in to the road because one family wouldn't move, they looked at me like I was mad.