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conspiracy theorist on my FB - Bill Gates is an evil dictator who wants to control us all with vaccines ??

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caperplips · 14/04/2020 13:17

I have someone I know vaguely on FB spouting this sort of stuff and lots and lots of idiotic conspiracy stuff in general. It claims that Bill Gates is single handedly responsible for killing Indian children with vaccines.

I don't much about it - do you think he is up to no good and is a dictator (also claimed)

I'd be delighted to see some actual evidence one way or the other - thanks!

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VetOnCall · 14/04/2020 14:45

I know someone like this too. They've really gone off the deep end in the last few weeks spouting a load of utter shit about pizzagate, 5G, coronavirus, Julian Assange, Bill Gates and how 'the truth will come out soon!'. Quoting David fucking Icke was the last straw and I had to mute them on social media as I was getting eye strain from rolling them so hard.

caperplips · 14/04/2020 14:50

Yes David Icke is a source of knowledge for this person too!
I am fascinated and repelled as I had no idea the person was a guillable as this before this situation...

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LastTrainEast · 14/04/2020 14:50

Sockmonster23 ah I see your confusion. He's not making the vaccines himself in his bedroom.

We all have brains yes, but many are crude and barely function. Sometimes two of them will meet and fall in love and that's where baby conspiracy nuts come from.

LastTrainEast · 14/04/2020 14:52

None of you think it could possibly true? we know better.

BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 14/04/2020 15:05

I have this too. It would be funny if it wasn't so worrying that she is adamant that she is 'thinking critically and not just believing everything she reads'.

caperplips · 14/04/2020 15:23

Are we all reading the same person's posts?!
Mine also asserts the critical thinking and and not believing mainstream media.....

It's sad as I will never be able to think of this person in the same light again after this.

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BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 14/04/2020 15:49

Are we all reading the same person's posts?!

I think a lot of the time they just use the same sound bites. I'm waiting for the word 'sheeple' to be used...

AngryRedhead · 14/04/2020 15:51

So much naïveté.

It’s obviously the Loch Ness Monster who’s behind it all.

Gates is just a patsy.

drivingmisspotty · 14/04/2020 16:12

@redbushtea but that is just someone tweeting that the Bill Gates programme raises concerns in India. There is no evidence there that this was the case. What is ‘vaccine strain Polio’ anyway?

Do they mean vaccine derived polio? You can find an actual scientific, reliable account of that from the World Health Organisation here and it is a bit more complicated than ‘vaccine causes disease’: www.who.int/features/qa/64/en/

Moondust001 · 14/04/2020 16:15

Dear God, we need to get out of this lockdown soon. I used to think people spent too much time on social media before the world went mad...

PowerslidePanda · 14/04/2020 16:29

So the billionaires who don't donate towards coronavirus are selfish for not sharing their wealth (fair enough), but those who do are trying to control or kill us all Hmm. This isn't exactly going to encourage the selfish ones to be more philanthropic, is it?

caperplips · 14/04/2020 16:51

@drivingmisspotty but the WHO is also BAD according to this person....

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AgeLikeWine · 14/04/2020 17:02

The more I hear about all the ridiculous bullshit on Facebook, the more convinced I am that I was right to decide not to join it.

MissConductUS · 14/04/2020 17:12

There are some criticisms of the Gates Foundation but they have to do with governance and measuring its impact, not the quality of the work it does

The media loves the Gates Foundation. These experts are more skeptical.

It employs a data driven approach to medical philanthropy. Vaccines are a very cheap and easy way to save a lot of lives.

Facebook can be a cesspool of craziness and misinformation. I generally ignore it.

Worriedmum54321 · 14/04/2020 17:20

Well he's clearly not a dictator. He doesn't rule a country. What country do the conspiracy theorists think he is dictator of?

ChainsawBear · 14/04/2020 17:23

If you look past the conspiracy theory and use critical thinking, no bias either way

By all means, do that. I invite you in particular to devote a teaspoon of critical common sense to the logistics of a large scale conspiracy.

  • how does Bill Gates recruit people to his evil plan? How does he know he can trust them, or that they aren't journalists or double agents?
  • even evil plans need paperwork, project plans, payroll. How long do you think it would take before documentary proof of the evil plan got leaked?
  • ask yourself how many people would actually have to be in on it for it to be true, and given that some of them would inevitably be low level peons with little to gain from perpetrating it, how long it would take for them to whistle-blow.
  • read up on the few actual conspiracies we know there have been, like Watergate, and notice how few people were involved, how sad the plan actually was, and how little time it took for things to go pearshaped.

Large scale evil conspiracies happen basically never. Because they're totally impractical and contrary to human nature. You can barely get half a dozen people to agree on most topics, much less buy into an evil conspiracy and keep it secret.

wibdib · 14/04/2020 17:40

I have one of these on my fb page too but unfortunately it’s a relative who I need to have proper contact with and can’t get away with a card at Christmas as that would be plenty.

One of the last videos they sent they said they had seen the start and that it was great, looked like being a good introduction. I pinged back to say not to bother as I’d watched great chunks of it and the stats they were quoting and the things they were inferring were really dodgy, treating their inferences like facts and basing more and more conclusions (which they spouted as fact) off them and even a first year stats student could list all their errors... unfortunately it hasn’t shut them up but worse they now see me as more of a challenge to convince me with other mad conspiracy videos 🙄
Now ignoring...

Devlesko · 14/04/2020 17:42

I have someone I know vaguely on FB

Trying to be oh so popular doesn't work OP, try just sticking to actual friends.
HTH.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 14/04/2020 17:43

Bill Gates swallowed Kermit the Frog which is why he talks like that.

coldwarenigma · 14/04/2020 17:55

James Bond will be on the case as Bill sits stroking his white fluffy cat...Wink

bellinisurge · 14/04/2020 18:01

Prove that I am not secretly manipulating the government into making everyone a prepper like me! Prove it! You can't, can you? So it must be true.

OhMsBeliever · 14/04/2020 18:06

I have a friend post the same thing.

I'm sure someone will be along with a YouTube video to prove it's all true very soon. Hmm

cybercontroller · 14/04/2020 18:08

I'd unfollow the person. Arguing with one is like arguing witha brick wall.

@Devlesko
Trying to be oh so popular doesn't work OP, try just sticking to actual friends.
HTH.

Neither des trying to be oh so clever and smug. HTH.

countrygirl99 · 14/04/2020 20:37

Bellinisurge you aren't the controller, I am. Prove I'm not. Yeah, knew you wouldn't be able to - proof!

MissConductUS · 14/04/2020 20:58

Bill Gates is my secret love slave and I can assure you he is not a dictator.

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