To think policing is pretty poor in this country?

[EasyPleasey]

I'm sure there are lots of excellent and well meaning individual police officers. However, my dealings with them in the past decade have been:

1. Reported a sexual assault. CCTV available, public area. Case closed not investigated.

2. Reported a burglary. Very likely suspect told to them, they didnt investigate, they didnt have time, case closed.

3. Spent ages writing to them about suspected fraud on a now deceased person. Never followed up by police.

4. Reported a fraudulent car sale/theft complete with names and addresses, nothing done.

5. Reported regular criminal damage to private property, some teenagers smashing outdoor lights and garden furniture in my road, £1000s of damage. Police said it's worse in other areas and did nothing.

But now I see police loitering round Tesco enforcing that one puts 'non essential' socks in their trolley, harassing people for using their front garden, I think where did they find all this time? Maybe a lot actually enjoy having the power to order people around, but solving crimes isnt a passion for many of them?

Maybe someone breaking into an trashing my car isn’t the crime of the century but if they’d have been bothered to investigate it at all they might have found the same guys doing it all over our neighbourhood and solved not one crime but 10 or 15.

What do they do all day?

Maybe you should give it a go and find out?

Shall we just say "NAPALT" and return to the issue of women's complaints being ignored, whilst sunbathers are questioned and "advised"?

Funny how pre Corona dozens of threads criticising the NHS, can't do that now, can't slag off teachers as schools aren't functioning, so let's all have a go at the police.

Not sure where you have been but there are definitely still thread berating teachers. Perhaps even more than before.

I agree with you. Our business was broken into. We had money stolen. Police didn't even bother coming out and have closed the case despite us giving them cctv of the little shit bags.

The next day, they spent the whole day stopping people in cars asking them whether their journey was essential.

I was fuming.

A police bashing thread. . All police bashers to be arrested. MN Headquarters see to it.

The people in this thread who have been let down by the police (including myself) are talking about serious crimes here- armed robbery (I was a victim of that), rape, stalking, sexual assault, domestic violence etc

While as I noted, there are plenty of police available to harass turn up at someones workplace (because that never fails to impress your boss and colleagues) and "have a word" with them about their non-criminal behaviour "in case it leads to something".

That's not one lone copper making a bad judgement. That was an entire force from the Chief Constable down. You could easily buy a few houses with the money they must have spent on that "case".

Can I ask how many of you have sent a letter to your MP to complain about funding cuts? (Which are the cause of a lot of the complaints on here - not all - but a lot).

I think policing in this country is institutionally misogynistic. It’s hard to have faith in policing when you see what happens when we and other women report violence.

A police bashing thread.All police bashers to be arrested. MN Headquarters see to it

😂 A claimed serving police officer on MN, who was rather miffed with me, yesterday requested my personal details so they could "help" me. Sure, I'll get right on that. 😂

My mum put in 2 complaints of emotional abuse last year, they were ignored, and eventually, when the police did come out, it ended with BOTH of my parents being arrested, kept in a cell, questioned and released. My mum was the victim, yest she was treated exactly the same as the person abusing her. They released my dad FIRST so he managed to get into their home, and she couldn't be are to go back. She lived with me for 7 months and now lives alone in a council flat. He doesn't need to buy her out because she has a private pension and he doesn't. She will eventually owe him money. She has been left with nothing, and now has to pay rent, while he lives in a mortgage free house.

Can I ask how many of you have sent a letter to your MP to complain about funding cuts?

This has absolutely nothing to do with funding and everything to do with priorities and lack of will to assist women.

They have plenty of drive time and breath to go out and pull cars over or chat to sunbathers now. Imagine how women's lives would improve if that get up and go was directed at DV.

Yanbu

My teen son and some friends were a victim of a violent crime. Policearrested criminals at scene and asked the victims if asked would they take off their top to show that they have no gang tattoos. They have never been in trouble with the police.

He was a victim of another crime when closing up at work. When they saw this wasn't the first crime he'd been a victim of, they asked about the gang tattoos again. This time they asked me if he had gang tattoos and when I'd seen him with a top on. Ffs

Victim blaming is a fucking disgrace. Second crime is on CCTV and first crime was witnessed by member of public who took video for the police so there's no doubt that they happened and the police believed witness as lots of them turned up with guns and bullet proof vests.

The police seems to be one of the few environment where you can judge the entire workforce on one member of staff.

If you have a bad experience with one police officer, it's ok to put everybody else in the same basket. It's weird.

@ProfessorSlocombe

I totally agree.

As for people getting upset that an entire profession is being bashed- before CV hit there were two threads on here bashing mental health professionals and psychiatrists. I work in mental health.

I didnt start screaming about how dare you and how great I am and how hard I work and "you dont have to deal with psych patients all day so how dare you!". I actually listened to what they had to say and found it enlightening. How can we progress and change if we dont listen to what people are saying and that includes complaints too. The fact that a job is both physically and mentally challenging isn't a reason to not improve services or look at areas in which that service is failing people.

Yabu. You are tarring all of the police with the same brush. They are not all like that, and they are also confined to what they are told to do.

If I did that about my experience with some NHS nurses and doctors, you would not be standing outside clapping for their negligence. But I know that not all of them are like that and have had good experiences with other nurses and doctors. I wouldn't make a post claiming that they are all shit.

*If you have a bad experience with one police officer, it's ok to put everybody else in the same basket. It's weird.

NAPALT...

@Balhammom no I mean obnoxious overbearing dickheads who think their badge means they can throw their weight around and are above the very same law they are meant to uphold.
By no means does this apply to all police and I'm sure there are some great ones but there is absolutely a 'type' of person who becomes a police officer

by extension, one troll on MN means that every single poster is a troll

I've been having a lot of trouble with my teenage daughter over the last few months (pre lockdown) The police have been absolutely fantastic! Kind, supportive, responsive, helpful, concerned and efficient. I couldn't have managed without them - they have always been there when I needed help - unlike other agencies!

isn't a reason to not improve services or look at areas in which that service is failing people

The service absolutely should be improved. But blaming the individual officers for that would be like blaming the individual nurses and doctors for the failings of the NHS.

In reality it is badly managed, badly funded and massively overstretched like all of our other public services.

It doesn't mean that your neighbour Jim who happens to be a beat cop is a prick who hates women, does nothing all day and wants to be policing how many socks are in your trolley at the supermarket.

I have lived in many countries of the world.

Policing in the UK is way better than it is in most places abroad - including the EU.

Policing in the UK is by consent. Police are accountable.There is an independent complaints procedure. If you are not happy with the outcome you can take matters up with your MP.

That is not to say that there are not major problems from time to time. There are. And we should not be complacent.

dh works in a supermarket, people just come in and nick stuff, police called never turn up. repeat. repeat.

and no I haven't written to my useless MP about it because i know that would be pointless.

With so many public sector-bashing threads about, it's almost like some political bots are posting to rile up the population and distract them from the fact that years of cuts have decimated these services...

Nah. I'm over thinking this.

there is absolutely a 'type' of person who becomes a police officer

What's that then? Because you could say the type of person who joins the police is the type of person who wants to dedicate their life (and quite literally risk their life occasionally), in order to protect yours.