Baby 16 weeks (4 months in 8 days) and still cross eyed?

[Tjsmumma]

I uploaded a pic of DD to her grandmother earlier when i noticed one eye was definitely 'cross eyed' or pointing more towards her nose.

I know she's not quite 4 months yet, but, everything i read up about what she should be doing by then (she does everything else) states that, that should be gone and to be concerned if it's not.

I then went on her old pictures and noticed literally every single picture has it. Always the same eye, now, im pretty worried lol. My DP seems to think it's no big deal and it'll go away on its own but reading up about it states not getting it sorted ASAP can cause it to become weak and not function properly and now im just super anxious about it.

Anyone else's DC had cross eyes still at this age and it resolved by itself? Or, if not, whaf was the case? Am i over reacting? Or AIBU to state that i want to get it checked out??

I'd defo see the GP if she still has it at 6 months. To reassure yourself you could ask for a phone consultation in the meantime to discuss the issue. They should be able to advise on how urgent it is.
I got the impression they wanted to see us promptly but DS1 was just over 6 months old when I raised it and usually squints have resolved by then.

I work in an Eye Hospital. It looks like a pseudosquint from the photos. Unless an orthoptists does tests you can never be totally sure but one of the tests is to look for symmetrical corneal reflections, which she has. The chances of it being a true squint are tiny. Speak to your GP by all means but as long as you have no other concerns about her eyes/vision I would wait until it is safer to be seen. Also, all but the most urgent outpatients have been cancelled in many hospital eye clinics.

In every photo you have posted, she is looking slightly to the left (with both eyes, in a normal way). This means that the white of the eye in the nasal (next to her nose) corner of the right eye is not (or barely) visible. This effect is more pronounced in babies due to the epicanthal folds PPs have mentioned.
As PPs have also said, the corneal reflexes are symmetrical, which is a good sign).
I think she looks entirely normal.
Obviously nobody can say for sure without a full examination, but these pictures would not worry me.

@Alocasia from what ive read and pics I've seen i totally agree but still worth double checking in foreseeable! Thank you :)

@iano i shall i need to take her for her jabs anyway so ill book both of them at the same time! I'll see if I can get a phone appointment with doc n see if they want to put referal in

@Tjsmumma I hope the attachment has worked. It was mostly pretty mild, and not there all the time, but if you zoom in you can just see that the reflection of the light behind me is not in the same place on his pupils. As he got older it became more noticeable when he was focusing close up.

Hope the HV can reassure you and it can wait a few months. As an aside, please don't worry about being separated from your little girl in hospital - it's incredibly unlikely she'd need admitting with CV anyway and every paeds ward I know of is allowing a parent to stay with children.

@Jazzytulips thank you so much for your reply! No, i realise that! I was more asking to see if i was just over reacting as DP didnt think it was and thought i was being a worry wart like usual lol. Yes, now after all these responses i dont think its urgent enough fo go to the doc and not worth the risk to either of us! Ill definitely pursue it though just to make sure but reallt reassuring to hear that, puts my mind at ease for the mo. No, nothing else worrying me, she seems to have good vision in the eye, tracks, grabs, smiles ane doesnt do it bar when a photo is taken.

@Shoppingwithmother that's really reassuring to hear, no definitely not, but, i think for the moment i can hold off and have a slightly bit more peace of mind about it! I didn't realise about the light hitting it and just saw her eye looked slightly off kilter so assumed it was a squint but, from all the comments here and the research ive now done im thinking its more of a pseudosquint and to do with the folds like you say. Thank you! I'll definitely get it checked up though :)

@SockQueen - Ah, thank you so much! Yes, i can see it, like you say, only slightly! What a gorgeous boy you have 🥰 that was my main concern, if we didnt get it seen to ASAP it getting really bad, but, i know children go months unnoticed and it resolves.

I'm just overly anxious about pretty much everything and think the worst case scenario as you can tell about the CV! I'm hoping so, that's really reassuring! I'd read some articles stating mum and dad had to leave baby to go alone and they had to self isolate without him, which obviously sent of alarm bells for me!

Thank you though :) i really appreciate your response and reassurance! Hope your little boy found something that helped for him!

@Tjsmumma thank you! He's 3.5 now and can be a little monster but is a lovely boy most of the time. He's taken to his glasses really well, it's likely that he'll always need them but as DH and I and all his grandparents wear them, he sees it as quite normal and is unphased by it. He even says "When (DS2's name) is 3 and a big boy, he can have glasses like me!" Think this is unlikely as DS2 has no obvious squint, but it's a sweet thought!

@Tjsmumma I could never tell from the light shining in the eyes thing. It always used to come back differently...don't think I was very skilled!
I agree with others, however, that you shouldn't worry too much as the last pic you posted of your DD I can't see anything that looks like a turned in eye.
Very unlikely to be astigmatism at this age
DS had astigmatism from babyhood.

Op I think seeing your GP at 6 months if you still see it sometimes is a good plan - there's no rush.

My youngest at the same age looked like he had a squint so I got him referred to paediatric opthalmology, they weren't at all concerned and said it would correct by the time he was 6 months old. Literally the morning he turned 6 months it seemed to have gone.
They did however pick up that he may be myopic in the future (not a surprise, I wear glasses) but at least we know to keep an eye out for any potential issues

@SockQueen awh he sounds absolutely adorable!! Bless, he's done so well adapting to glasses! Most children i knew struggled to keep them on!

@ploughingthrough yes, ill definitely see them at 6 months and ensure! Hopefully all this will of blown over by then! Thank you again

@ZigZagIntoTheBlue okay fab, so its worth holding out then as from what ive read they are cancelling non urgent appointments anyway and dont want to see/go to unnecessary places if not needed at the moment! Thank you!

OP your DD is gorgeous!

We noticed DD1's eye turning inwards when she was 2 yrs 4 months and mentioned it to the HV by phone. She sent a referral to the local eye clinic and DD was assessed by them. Like me, she is very long-sighted and the effort of focussing on close objects meant that her brain started to ignore the signals from her weaker eye. They recommended glasses and patching. DD is 20 now and still wears the glasses. We were pretty strict with patching (made a patch for her favourite dolls too) and after a few months cut down from 4 hours per day to 2, then to 1. Her eyes are really balanced now and experienced opticians struggle to say which is her "lazy" eye. She is still long-sighted. She went through a phase of struggling to put the two images together in her brain when she was maybe 6 or 7 but that passed. She leads a normal life and has a clean driving licence.

Don't panic, but keep an eye on it. DD was always worse when she was tired. Treatment is quite conservative - in my day they went straight for surgery but we were told that it was not on the radar for DD. They also kept a really close eye (sorry!) on DD2 from when they started with DD1 so DD2 was around 9 months old and she was always fine.

@Malbecfan thank you so much 🥰

I shall definitely keep an eye! I won't rush to docs at the moment and just make sure i get it checked once all this has blown over now after some reassuring comments! Neither of us wear glasses but doesn't necessarily mean she wont need them! Thank you for your response

@ploughingthrough I said was that it it very unlikely, not impossible. I am an optician and see babies and young children very regularly so my comment was based on this and just reassuring OP

Please dont take this the wrong way....but I have a severely disabled 10 year old ...his testicles are in his groin...... nothing in his underdeveloped sack !!!! Nothing is happening 10 months beyond ...despite the cancer risk.
Its concerning but will be sorted eventually....... now is not the time x

@icebearrocks bit confused to the relevance to the comment if im entirely honest byt yes.. If you read previous comments ive stated I'll be waiting. Sorry to hear that

My son had problem with cross eyes, I brought it up at 3 mth check and doctor said they wouldn’t do anything until he was older so to just keep checking it. Between 4-5 mths it stopped happening and now no problem at all. It happened more if things were up close, he would focus in and one eye wouldn’t go back again for ages. I think you will struggle to get any appointments at moment anyway so give it few more weeks. No idea if it helped but I kept objects further away from my ds and tried to help him strengthen his eyes by getting him to follow objects

My DD had a bilateral squint which was corrected when she was 6 with surgery. The results were amazing. Don’t worry.