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daffodilbrain · 2020-04-09T21:20:15+00:00

A friend had been furloughed but her company is making up the balance of her salary - surely this can't be right? And it's big business taking advantage.?

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/04/2020 08:59

Why should my dh not get his furlough money because his salary is higher than 60k? Do you realise we get absolutely nothing. I mean nothing. I have never claimed disability benefits I should be entitled to because I didn’t want to take. He’s a net contributor ffs and we get nothing, not even child allowance from the government. Your last comment has given me rage.

Nottherealslimshady · 10/04/2020 09:00

The company isn't gaining anything so how are they taking advantage? Shes not allowed to work on furlough. They're putting themselves out to help her.

Zampa · 10/04/2020 09:02

I know people being furloughed just to save the company money, when the furloughed staff member still has enough work to do. The rest of us have to pick up the slack. This is immoral IMO.

Xenia · 10/04/2020 09:05

Not sure if the poster has said or not but the furlough scheme applies to PAYE employees (not sole traders) up to £2500 of earnings with the state paying £2000 of that in due course if the employer applies. So someone on say £100,000 a year could be furloughed and paid £2k via the state scheme and not just the balance to £2500 by the employer but balance to the full normal salary (I think - I have not read the detailed regulations). Whereas the rules (not furlough ) for support for sold traders is we get zero if we earn over £50k a year before tax. I am not sure why furlough did not similarly have a cut off to keep high earners off the scheme.

CaroleFuckinBaskin · 10/04/2020 09:05

Ok I take it I'm wrong I just thought with all the other expense of the country i just question someone £60k plus should have 2.5k govt funded

Why not? If they are not being paid at all then the fact that they earn 60k means nothing anyway? Or do you assume that someone on 60k should automatically have enough savings to see them through the next few months? It's not that high a salary is it?!

I don't quite follow?

LittleBearPad · 10/04/2020 09:06

Perhaps better Zampa that the company doesn’t become insolvent though. And define ‘enough work’. If it isn’t revenue generating then things may need to become busier.

Bringringbring12 · 10/04/2020 09:06

It is precisely what the government was hoping would happen

OP spend a moment on google before starting a thread

EasyPleasey · 10/04/2020 09:09

Yabu. Most companies will try to do what they can afford.

HugoSpritz · 10/04/2020 09:13

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Walkaround · 10/04/2020 09:14

daffodilbrain - lucky the Government understands a bit better how the economy works than you do. You should also pay more attention to Government announcements, since it was specifically stated that employers should make up the difference where possible. So you are criticising the better employers, not pointing out some weird cheat where they are sneakily paying staff a bit for doing bugger all, even though they don’t have to, rather than making them redundant.

SharonasCorona · 10/04/2020 09:18

Are you employed, OP?

rwalker · 10/04/2020 09:21

FFs there company is going above and beyond just goes to prove some people will find fault with anything .

Bringringbring12 · 10/04/2020 09:28

I’ve just clocked the OP’s name. Appropriate.

YappityYapYap · 10/04/2020 09:30

I've been furloughed, was furloughed on the 30th of March. I just got my payslip to be paid on Monday (I'm paid fortnightly) and I've got one weeks wages from what I worked the week of the 23rd of March and one week of furlough wages. I'm just getting 80% as this is all the company I work for can afford. It's a small company and 13 staff have been furloughed with only 5 staff still working (so they'll be getting 100% of their wages of course).

My furlough wage hasn't worked out that great as I'm hourly paid so it's 80% of my average wage over the past year. I did 12 hours a week for the first 3 months of the tax year then 18 hours for the next 3 months but for the past 6 months I have been doing 25 hours a week. My furlough wage doesn't resemble that of 80% of 25 hours of course, it resembles 80% of doing less hours for 6 months then going higher.

Still, it's more than I'd get on SSP or JSA so I'm not complaining. I had time to plan and we've managed to take a mortgage break so we will be ok.

Companies that can do 100% for their employees are doing a good thing in my view. I don't think my company is doing a bad thing, they really can't afford to top the wage up due to such a sudden fall in business so the choice was pay us the extra 20% and possibly have no jobs for us in a few months or don't pay us the extra 20% and have jobs for us once this is over. I would rather have a job to go back to

Flossie44 · 10/04/2020 09:30

Why shouldn’t a high earner be involved in the scheme? Why should someone who’s worked their arse off all their life, not received ANY benefits whatsoever, including child benefit, be thought of as taking the piss in this situation?! For someone taking home a lot more than the 2.5k, they will loose a lot of money each month if furloughed. Mortgages. Bills etc. These will also be higher I imagine than a low earned. We all live to our means. So actually the well off, will be hit harder!!
Not hearing many moan tho hey?! If it was the other way round we would I’m sure!!

YappityYapYap · 10/04/2020 09:35

Also, it doesn't matter what you earn. Everyone that has no work to do within their company is entitled to have 80% of their wages paid by the government. It doesn't matter if they get paid £25k a year or £150k a year. The government can claim up to £2,500 a month for them plus the associated costs and if the company want to top it up so the employee gets their full wage, that is their prerogative and they are doing the best for their employees.

Also bare in mind that it's 80% of their basic salary so a lot of people will lose their usual income from bonuses etc so no one is coming out of this financially better off, no one at all

saleorbouy · 10/04/2020 09:41

Even big business will struggle during these times, they all have fixed costs to pay for plant assets and rent aswell as salaries. If they can reduce the cost of salaries by 80% then this is a legitimate way to remain viable and reduce job losses especially when they have technically been forced to close by the situation and rules.

QuestionMarkNow · 10/04/2020 09:43

I have to wonder with SE people can have anything at all if they earnt over £50k but somehow anyone who is paid over £50k can be furlough and get some money form-the government....

What I read here
We are happy to help COMPANIES to cope with the CV. But anyone else, Incl SE are inconsequent and not worth our help
Basically the Tories helping big businesses again.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 10/04/2020 09:44

Ah I see. It's just another thread born out of spite that some people earn more than others.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/04/2020 09:49

QuestionMark
Agreed. That is grossly unfair!

makingmiracles · 10/04/2020 09:54

Lucky for her she works for a decent company. Dp is furloughed but they are refusing to top it up at all claiming it’s a loan and they have to pay it back so they are losing loads of money. We know it’s a grant not a loan and the company are either misinformed or more than likely just worried about profit so have gone down in our estimations and dp is actively looking for another’s job as it’s just another sign of how much they don’t value their employees. It’s a big business with decent annual profits so not like their imminently at risk of going under or anything.

Billben · 10/04/2020 09:55

Ok I take it I'm wrong I just thought with all the other expense of the country i just question someone £60k plus should have 2.5k govt funded

Bearing in mind that all those people over £60k are higher rate taxpayers, too damn right they should be able to get the £2.5k and not feel an ounce of guilt about it either 🙄

Billben · 10/04/2020 09:57

Ah I see. It's just another thread born out of spite that some people earn more than others.

My thoughts exactly.

Billben · 10/04/2020 09:59

Why shouldn’t a high earner be involved in the scheme? Why should someone who’s worked their arse off all their life, not received ANY benefits whatsoever, including child benefit, be thought of as taking the piss in this situation?! For someone taking home a lot more than the 2.5k, they will loose a lot of money each month if furloughed. Mortgages. Bills etc. These will also be higher I imagine than a low earned. We all live to our means. So actually the well off, will be hit harder!!
Not hearing many moan tho hey?! If it was the other way round we would I’m sure!!

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bigfootfred · 10/04/2020 10:03

Many of us couldn't afford to live off the 80% furlough govt money so I think it's decent of companies to top it up to stop employees struggling