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year 6 class not getting any remote teacher support - what are the teachers doing all day

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anyname147 · 08/04/2020 18:30

My ds is in year 6 and has been at home, like most of his peers, these last few weeks. The (state) school has not offered much in the way of remote learning assistance to the kids or parents who are helping them, other than a few links on a page on their website which has remained static for several weeks. In spite of having to work full time, I am not a teacher, but have managed to cobble together some learning stuff for ds to do at home, but this is with zero help from the school. I understand some teachers are still working at school because of the key worker children etc, but surely the vast majority of staff are at home? What are they doing all day if they are still on the payroll? Surely a 10 or 11 year old can be sent homework tasks - that's actually marked - or weekly links to relevant year group content? I understand the kids don't all have laptops, but virtually all households have email and at least one computer or smart phone or tablet. I just find it hard to believe that his school staff haven't risen to the challenge of continuing their pupils' learning and instead have literally abandoned them because they cant go into school. I have, on the other, risen very much to the challenge and look forward to helping my ds learn new things, but this has come (time-wise) at the expense of my job.

OP posts:
RabbityMcRabbit · 09/04/2020 21:43

Probably trying to set work and mark work as well as homeschooling their own kids, unless they're called upon to go into school to look after key workers' kids, including working during the Easter holidays so key workers can carry on working. You are being very very unreasonable but then I think you know that. Stop trying to fucking shame teachers and have a bit of appreciation for what we do-we're goinv in to work so.key workers can do their jobs

Beebie2 · 09/04/2020 22:03

@SayNoToCarrots
If it’s allowed for in my salary - why is my wage slip broken down into hourly rate? I get paid an hourly rate, 32.5 hours per day, 39 weeks per year.

Surely my paid annual leave would need to be an extra payment (even if my hourly rate was then adjusted to a lower amount)

I don’t get any holiday pay specified anywhere.

Fromthebirdsnest · 09/04/2020 22:06

I have lots of teacher friends in there behalf p off ...

redwinefine · 09/04/2020 22:25

Surely all the lesson planning should have been done in the holidays

Why on earth would you expect teachers to be working during their holidays??

Everydayishistorytomorrow · 09/04/2020 22:27

My son didn't do that much in Yearv6 to be honest. I thinks it's a bit of a relaxed year as they prepare to move on.. Also it's Easter and Teachers have a massive amount of work to do to transfer all their teachings online. I'm sure the school will update you in due course. I wouldn't worry too much, especially if your child is doing well in their year group.

Theresnobslikeshowb · 09/04/2020 22:30

Ds’ high school are now fully up and running with a full timetable to start after Easter. However it wasn’t easy. Some kids had no access to the internet, others no electronic device, some only mobile broadband which costs a fortune, others were sharing a laptop or notebook, some are on Apple devices and others android. Can you see the problem the school has just sorting these issues? And ensuring some pupils had paperwork and others that any programme worked across all devices. It wasn’t easy and took time. But this is just one problem they’ve had out of a hundred or more.

notanotherpandemic · 09/04/2020 22:30

Why are people being so rude and abusive to the OP.

OP I understand why you are frustrated and upset with your DS school. I am a key worker so my children have been going to school and school are completing the online stuff with them. If my children were not being provided with any kind of educational resources for me to do at home I would be frustrated too.

Please everyone stop bullying the OP she has every right to be upset and frustrated with her DS school. It does not mean she is teacher bashing.

MamaBearLockdown · 09/04/2020 22:38

Why are people being so rude and abusive to the OP.
because asking what the teachers, paid with my tax, are doing all day - whilst the OP has risen to the challenge no less Grin -was rude and uncalled for

Whatever happens, half the parents will complain that there is too much work, the other that there's too little. And no one was expecting any work during the Easter holiday anyway.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 09/04/2020 22:44

My son didn't do that much in Yearv6 to be honest. I thinks it's a bit of a relaxed year as they prepare to move on.

Aha ha haha ha hah ah ah aha!

Oh dear me.

Not much in year 6? In SATs year? In the last year before high school when, even if your country doesn't do SATs (mine doesn't) it's still all about the levels and targets and getting every little bit of progress out that you can achieve.

Not a chance.

SayNoToCarrots · 09/04/2020 22:55

@Beebie2 I don't know. I think you need to talk to your union or to HR. Unless it's covered by the information for supply teachers, which talks about rolling-in? It's worth clarifying, anyway.

@ChloeDecker my colleague, at a state school in England, was given the annual leave she hadn't taken. She had to bring it up with HR, who had to get back to her as no-one else had ever asked.

You have to go on maternity leave at a time that means you take fewer than 28 days of holiday in that leave year, and you have to ask for it.

FrippEnos · 09/04/2020 23:21

SayNoToCarrots

That would be maternity.

The teachers contract in England stays hours and days that teachers are paid for. It doesn't mention holiday.

Also no employer can make you take holidays on days that you are not paid for.

SayNoToCarrots · 09/04/2020 23:33

FrippEnnos

If you look back at my post at 20:10 it's not just maternity.

I don't really understand your second point. I didn't say we have to take holidays on days we are not paid for. I said we are paid for 28 days of holiday, taken during school closure.

FrippEnos · 10/04/2020 00:01

My point is that we are paid for 195 days. 1265 hours. (+ plus hours required to do the job)

We don't work 5 day weeks all year.

You can find no reference to holidays in the burgundy book because we don't get paid for them.

Scissorsnglue · 10/04/2020 00:18

I know, in Scotland, I am paid for a proportion of the holidays as a statutory minimum I believe. I have heard teachers from England on here before describing something similar. It would surely be illegal to not give teachers the statutory minimum amount of paid holidays each year?

ChloeDecker · 10/04/2020 07:52

my colleague, at a state school in England, was given the annual leave she hadn't taken. She had to bring it up with HR, who had to get back to her as no-one else had ever asked.

There has to be more to this story because even your quote from maternity matters says this isn’t possible unless she resigned etc. as it’s impossible for her not to have had already had 28 days entitlement during a normal maternity leave portion.

Pencilplantironingboard · 10/04/2020 08:01

Taking heroin and creeping out at night to pick all the flowers in the park then stomping on them.

Piggywaspushed · 10/04/2020 08:04

Wrong thread!! Unless that's what you think the errant year 6 teacher is doing pencil?

SayNoToCarrots · 10/04/2020 08:09

It's not impossible. She went off in Jan and came back the following december. She'd had 3 weeks that year, and so had 1.6 remaining.

ChloeDecker · 10/04/2020 08:10

Also SayNoToCarrots have a look at the last two paragraphs of the Nasuwt supply teachers document you have linked to.

CatAndFiddle · 10/04/2020 08:12

I am sat on my arse. I sit on my pile of golden (taxpayer) coins and count them whilst chuckling to myself, mwah ha ha! I dont have to plan lessons, as I just turn up and read from the textbook. The kids just sit there and write down what I say. I'm on holiday most of the time, and there is very little work to do. Ocassionally, my mind will turn to trying to decide which child I will give an unreasonable detention to next. This is such an easy gig, hence why it is so difficult to find a job. It really is "dead man's shoes".

TheMotherofAllDilemmas · 10/04/2020 08:16

My son is in Year 12 and getting a one hour youtube lesson a week per subject, a few worksheets a week that he can complete on 3 hours. Considering there are 10 to 12 people in each class I don’t understand why his teachers cannot even acknowledge receipt or much less, comment on what he sent at all, especially when there are schools still teaching the full curriculum via Zoom or adding plenty of work daily in the VLE or google classrooms, so my take is that all the teachers are ill, unengaged or running to adapt to work online as they had never bothered to develop a proper online structure to support teaching.

SayNoToCarrots · 10/04/2020 08:23

I did chloe. It's not separate from our normal pay, but our normal pay takes it into account. We are paid enough to cover the statutory legal minimum of 28 days annual leave.

Piggywaspushed · 10/04/2020 08:30

as they had never bothered to develop a proper online structure to support teaching.

Why would they? We live in a country where a government hadn't bothered to prepare properly for a pandemic.

Why on earth would a school prepare in advance for online teaching?

ChloeDecker · 10/04/2020 08:40

She went off in Jan and came back the following december. She'd had 3 weeks that year, and so had 1.6 remaining.
How? With three half terms, Easter and Summer? Just how?

ChloeDecker · 10/04/2020 08:42

We are paid enough to cover the statutory legal minimum of 28 days annual leave.

That’s not what you have been saying. Re-read this sentence of yours Grin