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Tell me your stories about totally deluded house vendors

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Ludicrousoverpricing · 06/04/2020 22:38

So, been looking at houses for maybe 6ish months now and I just cant get over how completely and utterly deluded some people are about what they think their houses are worth??

So share with me your stories about deluded house vendors or otherwise horror stories regarding moving house? Need something to entertain myself with during this lockdown... Wink

My own experience recently

House 1: nice house and location but horrible on the inside. Needed completely gutting and renovating as hadn't had so much as a lick of paint in 20+ years. Vendor seemed to think that it only needed 'minor modernisation' eg re tiling a bathroom or changing kitchen cupboard doors was required and that said minor modernisation would mean the property would be worth several £10,000s more after the work was done. In reality even with a total new kitchen, bathrooms, flooring etc it wouldn't be worth anywhere near that. It probably would only JUST be worth their actual asking price AFTER it has had extensive work done on it.
You can buy a new build house of the same size in a similar area for the same price they are asking for their old dilapidated house. Why the hell would I pay the same for your house that needs extensive renovating when I can get the same house newly built without all the hassle of having to organise renovating it myself!

House 2: Same as house 1, nice area and house, very dated and old bathrooms/carpet etc. House next door sold recently, was a bigger house and impeccable throughout and they seem to believe their house is worth the same if not more... for a smaller house that needs at very minimum the bathrooms and flooring redoing!

House 3: Ditto of house 2 basically. Exact same situation. Believes their tired and in desperate need of some TLC house is worth the same as the bigger house that sold next door that was immaculate inside.

House 4: Just blatantly on the market for £70k more than the semi detached house is worth. Dont even know what the vendor is trying at because they will never get an offer close to what they're marketing it at. You can buy a nice 5 bedroom detached house or 4 bedroom newbuild for the price they are marketing theirs at.

Not sure if it's a coincidence or not that all these vendors are older individuals downsizing... Confused

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Angelnix · 07/04/2020 10:42

When buying our first house, we viewed a number that needed a bit of work doing to them. Two came up in the same street for pretty much the same price so we viewed both. One needed a bit of updating (new carpets, garden needed sorting etc), the other was missing a floor in one room and had no central heating! The estate agent couldn't understand why we walked away from it!

Shodan · 07/04/2020 10:52

Oddly enough, the most deluded vendor I've ever known was XH...

When we met he owned a 2 bed 2 bath flat in a large town near me. Not a bad flat, size-wise, but it was situated just down the road from the council tip. He'd also filled it with large, scary-patterned furniture that he'd got from his parents (70s/80s style stuff).

Despite never having updated the kitchen or bathrooms, never having cleaned the carpets or (worse) the lino in the kitchen (I discovered it was cream, not dark grey, after I cleaned it) he was still adamant that it should be worth the same as other two bed flats in the same town- completely discounting their lack of proximity to the tip, better kitchens/bathrooms etc.

Rather than drop the price, as the ea was advising , he rented the flat out for the first couple of years we were married, then eventually sold it at a greatly reduced price- less than he would've got if he'd just done what the ea said tin the first place...

BrightYellowDaffodil · 07/04/2020 10:54

I went to look at a group of properties - it was an old pub, split into flats, and the landlord wanted to sell all of them. The estate agent told me I could take my pick!

The first one had the sitting room/kitchen etc on the groundfloor but the bedrooms and bathroom were the old cellars. There were no windows in these cellar rooms beyond tiny slits - how the fuck they got planning permission for these is beyond me.

One of the first floor flats was marginally better but the piece de resistance was outside - what I can only imagine was originally the carpark or garden had been extended into with looked like temporary portacabin-style units which had been built up to look like proper buildings. The one I was shown was dark, damp and £175,000 because, as the estate agent was keen to point out, it was the best one of the lot because it had "a roof garden". What it really had was a staircase leading up to the roofing-felt covered roof which had a bit of fencing around it.

I paid nearly £10k less for something much nicer. And habitable.

Iamamoleinthegarden · 07/04/2020 11:06

Our first house was awful in an awful part of an awful town but we wanted a place of our own.

The first night my DH put up a tent in the bedroom and we slept in that for a fortnight so that we could pretend we were somewhere else.

We decorated starting in the hall and the very first piece of wall paper that we removed pulled a brick out of the wall with it.

InTheSummerhouse · 07/04/2020 11:14

Rather a nasty ageist edge to the post there OP. "older individuals" - who were selling their home of what 30 or 40 years? Their home that they had raised their kids in and poured all their money into when money was tight.

Any house is worth what someone will pay for it at the time of sale and the process of negotiation is to establish that price. Vendors should start high and come down and a buyer should offer low and come up until a balance is reached that both think is fair. That's how it works.
If a vendor has not sold a house for a while they won't neccessarily be in tune with the market. First time buyers are often a little off-kilter as well as well.

If times are uncertain then the price spread will be wide as stock is limited and funds insecure. Then individual circumstances will play a bigger role. Price will depend on market conditions and individual circumstances.

Sneering at vendors' taste and calling them deluded does not reflect well.

You might also be surprised when you have "ripped out" and "done up" a place to the tune of £XXXX that a potential buyer does not take that into account when they are buying from you.

Lieinrequired · 07/04/2020 11:17

@BillieEyeFish As soon as I saw your description of the house I knew what it was! We were given the details of that house when we were looking 6 years ago. We did not bother looking at it because we told the estate agent that we would need to convert the rooms back to a garage so thought the price was too high. The agent told us that the vendor would not drop the price. It has definitely been on the books of all the local agents and now he is trying online agents.

There was one house we viewed which we knew needed total refurbishment.When we got to it, the agent was standing outside with all the windows open. The smell inside was horrendous! Turned out the owner had sadly died in the house.

Maydayredalert · 07/04/2020 11:18

I viewed a lovely country cottage several years ago. The pictures looked OK, and it was only 4 years after the last timex it sold, in which the pictures looked immaculate. It had been done really nicely and everything looked new.

We had a shock, as everything was wrong. The windows were all warped, there was massive subsidence - it had a beautiful patio that was all lifted and cracked and the back of the house was virtually leaning. Chimney collapsing. Damp on the outside of the kitchen cupboards.

Worse, the greedy vendors had it up for sale, or to let. They let it to tenants but refused to take it off the market. They'd only been there a week when we viewed and hadn't tidied up (I felt for them really).

We did make an offer, it was in for 380 and we offered 280 to take into account the costs of repairing the subsidence. They refused as it wouldn't have cleared their mortgage (fair enough). It took another 4 years to sell and they got nowhere near their asking price.

Wrinklesareenhancing · 07/04/2020 11:23

this one:

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-68070395.html

There was one on the same road where the builder was asking £6M. I don't think people realise it costs a lot to build a high spec home and realistically you'd never get your money back on this. People are greedy.

thecatsthecats · 07/04/2020 11:23

The guy who owns the rented house next door.

Every time our house goes up for sale, he puts it back on the market for the same value ours went for.

We're the end terrace, his is the middle of three. Except:

  • Ours has a very nice layout, and has been refurbed to a very nice standard by previous owners. Lovely front garden/drive and mature garden at rear vs plain grass.
  • We have a 3x4m extension on the back, which is impossible for their house, as we have a right of way across the back of their garden (but they don't have it over ours). We also have a separate outbuilding.
  • The last house of the terrace is decidedly down at heel - tolerable at the front, but paintwork gone dark grey at the back - they're directly next to it, whilst ours is at least removed by one.

That house is worth a minimum of 25k less, but he never seems to accept that.

SussexBonfireViking · 07/04/2020 11:31

When we were looking, i went to see a '5 bed house'. It was a 'HMO' House of Multiple Occupancy. It was grim!

you could see through the walls in the loft 'conversion' the flooring didnt reach the walls, filthy
garden was overgrown and full of crap

I said to the agent "I wouldnt let my dog live here, and i dont even have a dog"

QuayboardWarrior · 07/04/2020 11:51

My story wasn't buying but renting.
Back then the average cost for a terraced rental in that town was about £60p/wk.

We met the landlord on a dingy street. The house had a broken window in the front door and the door itself was falling to bits. He had to open it by shoving it hard with his shoulder. Walking in the stench hit us first. Piss, shit and dogs. It was pitch black inside too. The carpet had been down 20 years at least, torn in places and had turned black and sticky. The kitchen was missing cupboard doors and most handles and the whole place looked like a drug den that you see on tv programmes. The windows that weren't broken and covered with cardboard and sellotape had sheets nailed up over them.
The three bedrooms turned out to be 2 and a cupboard. Not a bedroom at all because it wasn't even long enough to fit a person in a sleeping bag! And the sleezy landlord who kept "squeezing by" DM actually wanted £10 a week MORE than the usual rent for the area. He owned loads of houses. Mum made her excuses and we left as soon as we could, all gasping for breath as soon as we got on the street. Luckily all we left with was flea bitten ankles. Really. Flea bites in just 10 minutes.

sueelleker · 07/04/2020 12:00

@Crayfishforyou I'm surprised she didn't insist on the house being left untouched as a condition of sale!

BangingOn · 07/04/2020 12:34

Last time we moved house we viewed a lovely cottage with two barns. One barn was attached to the cottage and had planning permission for knocking through and converting. The second barn was detached and currently a home office and gym, which was perfect for what we needed.
The vendor was living overseas and the property was empty.

Our offer was accepted and everything seemed straightforward. Things got complicated pretty quickly when the vendor announced that the second barn was actually on a different title deed to the rest of the property and we couldn’t raise a residential mortgage against it. We were so in love with the house that we were looking at options to work around it and the agent agreed to let us and our builder have another look around.

I will never forget the look on the agent’s face when we walked into the cottage and saw the living room floor was under 2 feet of water.

The vendor still refused to reduce the price as they had refinanced so many times they were in negative equity. I felt sorry for them, but 10 years later it still hasn’t sold, despite being on and off the market a few times.

InkyToesies · 07/04/2020 12:34

Haven't read the full thread yet as I was becoming nauseous, and I've got a strong stomach!

The one I remember that still makes me boak sounded okay online, but there were few photos. It was a 3 bed semi, 1930s, described as having many original features, and the price was priced around the same as some very nice properties I'd already seen. It was in a naice residential street, and was described as having a large, mature garden and a wildlife pond.

It was a blisteringly-hot day, and when my friend and I got there a young woman aged about 19 answered the door. She was dressed in a loose knee-length dress and dirty flip flops. Her legs that were visible were covered in flea bites: old, well-scratched ones, as well as nice, new lumps. She looked and smelled like she'd just got out of bed. She was flustered and giggly and explained it was her boyfriend's house but he was "out the back".

Most of the windows were wide open "because of the heat" she said. Thank goodness for that because the miasma of smells inside was grim: a mix of unwashed, greasy humans, dogs, cigarettes, cooking, and dirt. It was cluttered and messy with various stuff - mostly broken - that was EVERYWHERE. And empty air fresheners, lots of them. However I was in Ann Maurice, House Doctor mode, and I'd decided to try to see beyond any grimness on viewings and concentrate on the potential.

She showed me and my friend upstairs and it was more of the same. Dirt and clutter everywhere including the stairs and landing but it was the main bedroom that was exceptional. The woman announced it was "their" room.

As well as the usual chaos, the unmade double bed had clearly been occupied until just before we'd arrived. The bottom sheet was visibly stained and damp. The smell of body odour, man-pong and sex (on top of the "normal" smell) in the hot room was - I don't have words... The few bedclothes were so dirty you couldn't make out the pattern, and they stood up stiffly with dirt and grime. The flat pillows were dark grey with dirt and grease as was the wall (no headboard) behind them. The walls had a variety of porn pictures stuck to them, as well as pink, glittery 'LOVE' signs for that feminine touch.

Downstairs we went (we couldn't wait to get outside) through the galley kitchen, past two raw pork chops on a plate with flies and bluebottles buzzing in a holding pattern above them, and out into the 'mature' garden which turned out to be an ordinary garden only with knee-length grass and weeds.

As my friend and I stood gulping the air, our hostess gave a wave towards a breezeblock structure with a corrugated metal roof that ran the width of the plot at the end of the garden. I looked but only had a brief glimpse of a shape at the sole window. I asked if that was her boyfriend. Yes, she told me, he was up there "with the puppies" and went on to tell me that all the dogs and puppies lived there, and it was his "hobby". We made to leave, but she was in her stride now and gestured to a raised oblong made of more breezeblocks. In it were some medium-sized koi. I must have been in some sort of trauma-induced state because I asked helplessly "Is this the wildlife pond?". Yes, she chirruped, there used to be frogs in there but when we put the fish in, they ate them, and then, giggling and excited, told us how the fish had "sucked the legs off them".

Somehow we got out and met the estate agent who had just arrived and was getting out of her car. I can't remember saying anything, but just stood mutely in shock as my friend made a few "suggestions".

I'd forgotten how horrific it was until I wrote this. My friend and I still mention the viewing from time to time when we come across something else that's filthy / horrific. Nothing has ever come close though. And no, I didn't make an offer!

DonutMuffin · 07/04/2020 12:58

Went to view a beautiful detached 4 bed Victorian house

Stank of dog and cigarettes, she was a hoarder

Agent stood in dog shit in her study Shock

Ended up offering her the asking price as it was on for 2 years and had been reduced twice

She took it off the market!!
I don't think she'll ever sell as she'd never be bothered to move all her stuff!

purpleleotard · 07/04/2020 13:08

I viewed a standard terraced house in my city.
The owner, probably deceased, had been a handy man and used the whole house as a play thing.
He had extended up into the roof space, but not uprated the joists, just boarded over the existing timbers, So it creaked as you walked around. A leaky Velux provided the light. The extra stairs were squeezed into a corner with no head room.
The sitting room floor had been dropped to create a 'discussion pit'. Walls had been removed to open up the ground floor. No evidence of steels to support the rest of the house.
Outside, a lean-to had been converted into a bathroom. The loo was overflowing.
As we were leaving I tried the light switch next to the front door to suddenly hear a pump start up and empty the loo.
All done without planning permission or building regs.
Reader. I didn't buy the house.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 07/04/2020 13:10

Bought our place three years ago. Our vendors heard precisely squat from us from the day of accepting our offer, and left us a lovely bottle of wine on the day we moved in.

Issues arose down the chain when we were the vendors, and found ourselves bombarded with increasingly ridiculous demands until exchange/completion day.

Her: Would we pay for an extended survey? Us: no. you want anything other than the standard survey, you pay for it.
Her: (when standard survey revealed some never-dislodged asbestos piping that was not a hazard or detrimental to the inhabitants): remove it at your cost! Us: No.
Her: could I visit for a second look around? Us: Yes (leaving the guided tour in the capable hands of our agents).
Her: Would you please trim the hedges at the edge of the property before we leave, as she doesn't want to be responsible for that? Us: Yes (complied).
Her: When was the chimney last swept? Us: (provided date)
Her: Please have it swept by the time you've left the property. Us: On your bike.
Her: why isn't the chimney breast exactly in the centre of the room? Is there any possibility it could be moved? Us: Er, no love, there's a flue behind it.

The agents were honestly embarrassed at having to ring us with these demands, which became more ridiculous with each one. I was seriously considering sticking the house back on the market if she didn't fluff off!

My relief on moving day was indescribable. Feel sorry for my old neighbours, though!

JeanJackeys · 07/04/2020 13:16

A 2 bed cottage, amazing pictures. Except it was a badly converted one up and one down. In fact, you could sit on the loo and genuinely reach the kitchen counter. Handy if you wanted a sandwich mid pee, I guess

hardyloveit · 07/04/2020 13:31

Saw quite a few these last couple of years before we bought our first home

1 lovely bungalow. Three double rooms. Needed a new bathroom, kitchen etc and the wall paper was super thick! We put in an offer at the asking price as although needed lots of work doing but we wanted it. However the nephew (his uncle had died who's bungalow it was) wouldn't accept the asking price! Wanted much more. We went up by £5k and the agents said someone else had offered much much higher but hadn't even put their house on the market. I said no more. They came back to me about 3 weeks later to say our offer has been accepted. Um..... too late! We had found another property by that point! It eventually sold for around £5k under the asking price!

2 we said to the estate agents we didn't mind doing up a house but it had to be liveable in the first place as we have kids etc. We pull up to this house which looked good from the outside. Got in side and couldn't even go in half the rooms as there was no floor!!!! The kitchen literally had one cupboard just sat in the middle. No plumbing no electric. And they were asking for it the same price as a house on the same road which actually had the standard flooring electrics etc lol.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 07/04/2020 13:41

@InkyToesies Wow. Just...wow.

francienolan · 07/04/2020 13:43

This isnt as bad as some on here but we saw a house on for 240k, which was toward the top of our budget (which the agent knew). He suggested also viewing one at the end of the same terrace they had on for 260k. The 240k one was modernized, open plan, finished beautifully etc. The 260k one was originally the same but needed loads of work to make it the same as the cheaper one. I know it was an end terrace not mid but still. LOTS of work needed. New kitchen, new bathroom (there wasn't even a tub) etc. Conservatory looked at the end of its life. Old old old boiler and heating system. This was when houses were sitting on the market for ages and going for way under asking at the height of Brexit uncertainty.

We didn't make an offer on either because we found a house we loved for a great price in a better village. It needs work but mainly cosmetic. Let the agent for the other properties know and assumed that was the end of that. This was November and we've had the keys to our house since February.

A couple weeks ago (yes, after coronavirus had started to be clearly serious here) the agent got in touch to let me know the 260k one had had a price reduction to 250k. The way the market around here has gone, even taking coronavirus out of it, I think that's still like 30k too high.

Deathraystare · 07/04/2020 13:45

We always seemed to be moving when I was young. Either Dad changed jobs or the job relocated.

We could only afford (well, I say 'we', I mean mum and dad, I was still at home then!) do-er uppers. One place I will always remember (I thin it was the Dulwich one???) within half an hour the electrics failed (of course we moved in when it was snowing. We had to wait ages on moving in day as they were not ready! Luckily there was a pub down the road and I asked if we could bring our cat in, who had a good sniff around the place!

Dad got an electrician round who refused to touch the wiring as it was a 'death trap'. So he had that lovely job himself! We hadn't brought our own oven but they had taken theirs. Luckily there was one in a room upstairs. Unluckily it billowed out smoke whenever it was used and it was sometime before we got a new one so we would sit there at meal time with watery eyes!

Oh and my brother found a stash of porn in the attic!

Waterandlemonjuice · 07/04/2020 14:06

We viewed a house on a street which had flooded and asked the vendor “did your house flood?” He said “only a tiny bit”

I googled and the street had been six foot under water, with actual boats floating along it. There was a quote from him saying “the council should have given us more sandbags”

It was on at £395; we offered £345 which he declined and 2 years later next door sold for £280k. I don’t think he ever sold it.

Rebelwithallthecause · 07/04/2020 14:08

I had a lady buy my first house and then come back after shed moved in saying that we’d overprices it as she has since had it valued again by another agent and she wanted me to pay her some money back!

CigarsofthePharoahs · 07/04/2020 14:14

Our current house was over priced. I offered as much as we were prepared to pay. Was told they wanted asking price. I actually laughed when the estate agent told me that. To be fair he agreed with me. He went back to them, said we'd already accepted an offer on our house and we're good to go whereas they'd been waiting for a year. They accepted!
House has needed work, but it was an absolute steal at what we paid.
Worse was a house just up the road. Pictures showed the owner had clearly gone to a lot of effort and expense to modernise it. Then it was rented out.
They'd trashed the place. The carpet had a thick black border in every room that was dirt. Clearly more people were living there than was sensible. The bathroom had a hole in the wall and the toilet was broken. The very new kitchen was extremely dirty and bits were broken. The garden had been put into some lovely terraces and a brick built barbecue installed, which the tenants had broken.
The whole house stank of BO and old very spicy food, much of which was splashed on the walls. It was so depressing, the tenants had probably knocked thousands off the value of the property.
The estate agent didn't think it was that bad and said that the owner wasn't prepared to take lower than the asking price - which would have been reasonable but for the tenants.
It stayed on the market a little longer and was then withdrawn from sale.

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