People are being incredibly selfish

[SummersMumma]

Today my neighbour who is shielding asked me (who is isolating) to post some letters for her. Myself and my 6 year old daughter collected the letters to make the 1 min walk to the post box and back. My daughter took her dolls pram with her. She is about 3ft tall max. I say this just in case someone suggests there was logic behind this.
On our way back from the post box. An adult DOG walker forced my HUMAN child to walk in the road to accommodate themself and their dog on the pavement and maintain a 2M distance from us. I did try to speak to her but given that she was on her phone with her ear phones in she either didn't hear or ignored me.
This is the first time we have stepped outside our door in over 14 days and after that selfish behaviour I think I am happy to stay in.
People should be ashamed.

She was a bit rude but also people might be getting a bit hung up on the 2m rule. It's just a safety margin, the WHO guidelines state 1m and are generally about not having sustained close contact. Anything over 15 minutes within one metre of an infected person is a risk, as is hanging about inside shops where there are lots of people touching stuff etc.. Not passing someone for half a second.

Next time, just stop in the middle of the road and encourage your child to do the same . Obviously not for elderly etc

Tbh OP I think you need to get out for fresh air and exercise each day.

You are getting things out of proportion. And locking yourself away is probably contributing to that. It's just not good for mental health.

Yes the dog walker was a moron. But most people are not like that.

Loads of tales of worried old ladies who should be at home Worried old ladies, and indeed unworried old ladies and old men of any disposition, are allowed to leave their home for exercise. Check the leaflet Boris sent you.

I had similar approach me yesterday, the lady trotted by looking all regal. It's a two way street.

I have had to walk into the road many times with the pram, I don't really mind but it's usually followed by a comment along the lines of why didn't you leave your child at home, even though I haven't caused any disturbance to their walk, he is contained in a pram, and maintaining above and beyond social distance recommendations. I don't usually bother replying, won't stop me going for walks though.

I live in a rural area so its easy for me to take daily exercise and give anyone that I meet a very wide berth. Striding through a field you can see anyone coming for literally miles around.

However I have lived in London and know how difficult it is and I 100% agree that people with toddlers need to keep a very tight grip of them. Running around like wild things is NOT on.

DS works in a supermarket and there is a family who come regularly en mass with their child and who spends most of the time running up and down the aisle and bumping into complete strangers.

Customers complain but want the staff to sort it out bar one women who shouted at the family to keep control of the child at this very difficult time.

@abbey44

I hope your dog was ok x

Though of course to some dogs aren’t important at all. And little Tarquinius or Jacinta is more than entitled to hit any dog on a lead.

I was out walking a dog today and had to continually move onto the road for kids and adults on bikes. They showed no sign of moving so I had to.

Consideration works both ways.

Although I’ve no idea if they were HUMAN children or alien offspring or shaved chimps.

It’s easier for a child to step to the side than a dog. I always get my children (same age and younger) to step to the side when we are out getting our daily exercise walk

Tbh I am very confused myself at this time so will follow advice and just not leave the house for anything at all until all clear.

The advice is not to 'not leave the house for anything' where the heck did you get that from?

You cannot be outside and self isolating at the same time. If you have self isolated for some reason for 14 days with no symptoms then there is nothing stopping you going outside.
There is nothing stopping you going out for a walk or shopping or for medical reasons or to help someone vulnerable.

The cv did not make this person an idiot they have always been an idiot. Shit like this happens every day why would you expect it not to now? Not everyone you will meet is an idiot, dont stay indoors because of only one peson.
Keep your dd on the inside of the pavement not near the road.

Seems a bit overdramatic. One person was mildly un-selfaware.

Sounds like you're stressed though. If you aren't high risk and don't have symptoms, it's a good idea to get out in the fresh air, it's not good for anyone to be stuck inside for weeks.

I'll be honest, I'd struggle to get het up about this at present.

What @InTheSummerhouse said: I have often been pushed off the pavement by couples holding hands, families walking three or four across, pairs of mothers with prams or pushchairs who will NOT walk in single file. It is not new. Doesn't mean it is not bad manners though

The dog walker probably was sick of having to get out of the way for prams and kids and and mommies who think they have right of way. Maybe her dog had just had an operation or was poorly, in which case your HUMAN (your caps) child should move. Your child doesn't trump another living creature, sorry!

I was walking my dog the other day and was forced off the pavement and onto the road by two teenage girls on bicycles. They should have been in the fucking road!! They were not little children who I think its fine to ride on the pavements.

Their mother was walking along a little way behind. I should have said something but frankly if they are that twatty, nothing I say is going to really penetrate is it?

My point is, there are arseholes everywhere.....look what happened to abbey44!!

I'd let it go OP. It's just the odd person, not everyone is rude.

I'm sure there are similar amounts of mums with kids on scooters/speed walking people going to work/distracted teenagers staring at phones etc etc that wouldn't think to cross the road. One person doesn't represent all.

@abbey44 that's horrendous what those brats did to you and your dog. That is something worth complaining about! Hope you're ok.

However at the moment I dont really think anyone should be letting their very very small children walk anywhere outside. I just went for a lap of the local park with DP and DD in a sling. The number of families with toddlers running amok was ridiculous. They all seem to think social distancing doesnt apply to little kids or just cant be bothered to control them properly. Toddlers are unpredictable, they dont understand the concept of social distancing so they should either be in a sling/pram or not taken out.

I'm guessing you have one baby, who is therefore perfectly happy to be in a sling. And would also be just as happy inside. When you have a toddler you'll look back at that opinion and cringe.

I dont really think anyone should be letting their very very small children walk anywhere outside.

Good God its getting ridiculous now.

It's always weird leaving the house for the first time in ages but you need to do it more, now you can, for your dd's benefit, at least. The vast majority of people do try to be considerate.

DC and I were in our local park this afternoon. The footpaths are 2-3 metres wide so plenty of room for the walking passed each other. Three women were walking in the opposite direction to us, spread right across the footpath. DC and moved right over to the side, the three women carried on as they were, if I'd have flung my arm out it would have hit one of them she was that close to me. She looked at me with a bitchy smirk on her face as she went passed.

I don't understand why people have to be like this. It's bringing out some really nasty selfish people.

@abbey44 I'd have grabbed the stick and hit the little fucker with it.

Why did you go out if you're self isolating? If anyone's being unreasonable, it's you.

@lisasimpsonsbff I was just waiting for someone to say it. If I don’t take 3yo Dd our it’s carnage at home, if I do take her out it’s carnage on the footpath.

I'd have grabbed the stick and hit the little fucker with it.

I don't think you really would publicly assault a child, you just like fantasising about it on the internet.

The roads are empty, does it matter if you had to walk in the road? Its give and take. Dont think it would cause me to go on mumsnet to tell people I had to walk in the road.