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End of tenancy

34 replies

cindertoffees · 05/04/2020 12:32

Unsure what to do here, can anyone advise please?
End of tenancy is tomorrow, and there are still bits of old furniture at the property that I am/was planning on going to the tip via a local man and van service.
Obviously they're not working at the moment and tips are closed.
Do I inform landlord that he can have keys as planned but will need to dispose himself or keep keys and wait for lockdown to be lifted so I can get rid myself?
Letting agent no help whatsoever, they've said if I'm not out I'll be liable for extra rent, I've just been made redundant so this wouldn't be good at all.
Not sure what to do?

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Pipandmum · 05/04/2020 12:38

Does your council pick up items for a fee? They may still do that. And I've seen ads near me for house clearance people still working - have you rung around?
The property can't be let with your items still in it. If I was your landlord and had to arrange disposal myself I'd be charging you for it - not just the removal fee but for my time as well.

TriangleBingoBongo · 05/04/2020 12:39

If you expect your landlord to empty the property be prepared that they are entitled to charge you for the cost of that from your deposit.

TriangleBingoBongo · 05/04/2020 12:40

Also give your LL a call and explain your predicament. Don’t just leave items as that’s really annoying.

safariboot · 05/04/2020 12:42

I would put it in writing that I am abandoning items X Y Z and the landlord may dispose of them as they see fit, and apologise for being unable to take them away due to Covid-19 restrictions. Then hand your keys in as normal.

You can't be "liable for extra rent" if you leave belongings behind, but the landlord can deduct their costs from your deposit.

cindertoffees · 05/04/2020 12:45

Of course I'm not just going to leave items without telling him, there are no local disposal services working at the moment, I'd assume due to tips being closed?
Have absolutely no chance of getting deposit back, lived in property over ten years, and original inventory lists curtains and light fittings I can't even remember, not to mention a shed that blew down years ago.
I'm not trying to be unreasonable, he wants to sell the house not re rent it, so there will be no one living there for the foreseeable few weeks.
If it was me in his position I'd sooner just have the keys back rather than wait possibly 2 months?

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Honeyroar · 05/04/2020 12:48

I’d just leave it as tidy as you can aside from the things that need moving, send him the keys and tell him you’ll move them as soon as lockdown is over.

CodenameVillanelle · 05/04/2020 12:49

Look on gumtree for man with van rubbish clearance guys, one of them may agree to take your stuff for a fee even if they have to store it until they can tip it.
Otherwise accept that you'll have a deduction from your deposit for disposing of it.

cindertoffees · 05/04/2020 12:50

Thankyou, advice appreciated!
Don't want to end ten years of a good tenancy on a bad note.

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CodenameVillanelle · 05/04/2020 12:50

Have absolutely no chance of getting deposit back, lived in property over ten years

Why do you think you won't get the deposit back? You can't be charged for much at all after ten years as you have exceeded the useful life of pretty much all fixtures and fittings

cindertoffees · 05/04/2020 12:54

@CodenameVillanelle the letting agents are literally the most nasty bunch, deposit back then was only £600, no doubt they'd want £200 for shed, another couple of hundred for paint, probably carpets etc
It's not trashed or unliveable at all, but I've heard so many horror stories about deposits.
Having to move has been a giant upheaval, and upsetting to leave a place I'd made into such a nice home, I can't be doing with battling for it back, sooner just move on.

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Stellamboscha · 05/04/2020 12:54

Surely you are moving your stuff to you read residence and should take the whole lot and then dispose of it when you can. Really unfair to leave your problem for someone else to deal with!

safariboot · 05/04/2020 12:55

Tenants leave stuff behind all the time. By telling your landlord that you're abandoning the stuff you make their life a lot easier, and only the grumpiest of landlords would feel that was ending on a bad note.

Slith · 05/04/2020 12:59

If you don't take everything with you then you haven't vacated the property so the tenancy continues. If you gave notice to leave and then don't do so then the LL can legally charge you double rent until you vacate.

CodenameVillanelle · 05/04/2020 13:00

Ok, they literally can't charge you for paint or carpets after ten years but if you're going to accept it that's your choice

PenisBeakerDipper · 05/04/2020 13:03

If your deposit is only £600 I’d be inclined to drop off the keys and send an email to say you’ve vacated but due to covid unable to completely clear the property. I doubt charging you extra rent would hold up in a small claims if it came to that but would seek professional advice.

We are landlords and after 10 years I’d expect to have to spend a fair bit to get a property ready for market. He’s not going to sell anytime soon anyway given the situation. It’d be shitty to charge you at this time if you’ve been a good tenant.

Wonder if ARLA or similar governing body can help? Or try Shelter

user1471430558 · 05/04/2020 13:03

If there is no inventory how can they prove theses items were not in the property when you moved in?

yatapina · 05/04/2020 13:04

Speak to your Land lord, if you have a good relationship then they may well be understanding given the current situation!

cindertoffees · 05/04/2020 13:04

I have already moved the big stuff just before lockdown, left the few bits behind as I knew I had until tomorrow, and wanted to do a clean etc before handing keys in, never thought 3 weeks ago that the situation would change quite so drastically.
I could suggest that he use the deposit for disposal costs when able to?
I'll give him a call tomorrow first thing

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cstaff · 05/04/2020 13:15

I think if you are ok with giving up your deposit then neither the landlord nor the agent will have any comeback. Let the LL know and given the current circumstances and the fact that you have been a good tenant for 10 years, this should not be a problem.

Mizydoscape · 05/04/2020 13:17

I'd still check with local clearance firms. I'm friends with one and he has his own land where he dumps crap until it can be disposed of so he would still be willing/able to do a job like that.

SoupDragon · 05/04/2020 13:18

Look on gumtree for man with van rubbish clearance guys

Don't do this without checking they are properly licensed or you might be subject to a hefty fine if they fly tip it.

cindertoffees · 05/04/2020 13:24

Thanks for all advice, I didn't want to gone down the gumtree route due to the danger of fly tipping!
I'll take contact with him tomorrow.

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VioletCharlotte · 05/04/2020 13:26

Can I ask why you've only just thought about this the day before moving? Surely it would have been better to contact the landlord at the point the tips closed and discussed the situation?

I don't think it's fair to leave it all for the landlord. Take it with you to the new place and store it there until you're able to dispose of it.

Ribenaberriesgowoo82 · 05/04/2020 13:28

@Slith, I don't think that's true somehow. Certainly not in the UK.

Slith · 05/04/2020 13:35

@Ribenaberriesgowoo82

I suggest you read the 'Distress for Rent Act 1737'

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