To think all the posts about how everyone else is breaking the rules is base attention seeking?

[Krazynights34]

Just that..
Posting links. Posting stories about their neighbours etc.
Maybe I’m doing that too?

Pot, kettle.

Attention seeking? If they are like me then its probably a way to deal with all the seething rage they feel seeing others flaunting the rules and knowing this will extend the lockdown and contribute to an increased death rate.

I find alot of the post I'm seeing on Facebook particularly high pitched. Pleading with people to stay at home. I think 99% have got the msg. Not everyone has a garden or space to escape each other. You dont know other people situation basically and there has to be a balance with preventing spread of the virus and mental health imo. If a family go to the park keep away from others, hand sanise etc its minimal risk and keeps people sane.

Preparing to be shot down...

Hottsteppa, I take it you aren't a Nurse risking your own life every day to work? I don't really care about other people's situations, we are all in the same boat and the guidelines are quite clear. So many people think they don't apply to them. So if I'm one of those people that come across as "high pitched" then it's because I'm suck of selfish people thinking they can do what they like. 7 NHS workers have now died of this.

That's not being "shot down" BTW, that's just saying how it is.

No actually I am a nurse on the "frontline" but I also see that there are ways and means to spend time out of the house in household groups whilst minimising risk to yourself and others. I , or rather my partner as I worked 60 hrs last week, have been so grateful of our garden I just imagine being in a small house or flat with no outdoor space with a couple of small children and I know that if we were all well I would take them to the park with a picnic. I would stay away from others , hand wash , wipe stuff down avoid the playground but I honestly would fear for my mental health if I was indoors with my kids indefinitely.

Good for you then, and I'm not being sarcastic BTW! No-one is saying stay indoors either though. There are so many people still breaking the rules. Our local council have shut all the car parks to stop people coming to the beach park. Local people can still go for walks etc. But some idiot just moved the cones to park!

I guess the post was about people virtue signalling on social media and to be honest maybe I'm seeing alot of it given my job. And dont get me wrong it's a dreadful situation for staff patients families, everyone. But I'm seeing lots of posts about "just been to the shop" essential item obvs... "it was packed, what dont people understand about stay at home" labelling everyone that's not them as idiots and selfish. It's really hard for everyone, some more than others. Theres also plenty of nurses I have seen who are unlikely, in the roles they do to ever come in contact with a poorly C19 patient who needed their care , posting pictures on line in their ffp3 masks after being fit tested. Everyone has their role but really? Turn it in.

I think a lot of people are really struggling mentally with lockdown rules and going on about how stupid and selfish people who aren’t complying are is a way of justifying their misery to themselves so that they’re able to continue living this way. Similar to hardcore Christians who bang on about homosexuals going to hell. Virtuosity is a symptom of emotional exhaustion.

If people could see what is happening in hospitals across the country and how hard it is actually to understand and fight and treat this illness. They would understand why people are exasperated by other people.

In my case it's not attention seeking. I'm so scared. I'm worried for colleagues that might die. I'm scared my dad will catch it and most certainly die. I'm worried people who think they are young and healthy are not taking this seriously enough young people are dying too.

I get the need for exercise: I get the need to be out for a short while. But 3000 people were in one park in London today ( the council have closed it today) but the longer people mix the longer and potentially harsher the lockdown and more detrimental to us all.

I get you ChasingRainbows. My DH has asthma. I'm so scared for him, he's only 45 so I'm hoping if it comes to it and he catches it he will get a ventilator but that just depends how quickly they run out. I despise the Tories with a passion and they have done many things wrong with this Crisis but lockdown is designed to ease the burden on the NHS and make sure there are enough ventilators for people who need them. I just hope it doesn't ever come to that, so when I see people flouting the rules reginabambina that's why I get angry, nothing to do with "justifying my misery", it's fear, frustration and anger.

.If they are like me then its probably a way to deal with all the seething rage they feel seeing others flaunting the rules and knowing this will extend the lockdown and contribute to an increased death rate

Except that it doesn't. The only people who you need to get cross with are those who have bonfires and meet up in groups (too close together). Those things affect people's health and may affect transmission rates.

People going out more than once, or for longer than you deem necessary, or buying items that you don't deem necessary, or driving further than you deem necessary, make no difference. There are sensible reasons not to do some of these things (eg going out for a drive increases your risk of breaking down or having a prang) but they won't increase the death rate and they won't affect you in any way whatsoever.

I guess the post was about people virtue signalling on social media and to be honest maybe I'm seeing alot of it given my job. And dont get me wrong it's a dreadful situation for staff patients families, everyone. But I'm seeing lots of posts about "just been to the shop" essential item obvs... "it was packed, what dont people understand about stay at home" labelling everyone that's not them as idiots and selfish. It's really hard for everyone, some more than others.

Completely agree Hotsteppa. Whilst I’m sure most people are posting from a place of genuine concern, there is a definite element of virtue signalling and, to be blunt, a sense of self-importance from some people.

As you say in one of your earlier posts, most people ARE getting the message on social distancing. But those who aren’t are ignoring the advice of the government, scientists, top level NHS management etc. Why do hairdressers, accountants, plumbers, web designers, florists etc. think that their ‘advice’ (i.e. posting ‘FFS stay at home people!!’ three times a day) will be what makes a difference? Is anyone really sat there thinking ‘Hmm, I thought those those constant warnings from the country’s Chief Medical Officer were a load of old nonsense, but if Nicola who sat behind me in Maths in 2003 is saying I should stay at home, maybe it’s time to listen?’!

The news this weekend is mostly about how the rules have been observed (so far) despite the sunshine. I have seen at least two "news" sites that have used stock photos to "prove" large groups of people were exercising outdoors yesterday. They clearly weren't taken yesterday, they were wearing hats and gloves, to exercise in 18 degrees!

Maybe it helps people to feel angry at others over this and I know there have been exceptions but at least question what you're seeing.

3000 people in a park and an 18th Birthday party. There really isn't any hope left.