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Why is my NHS employed SIL 'working from home'?

266 replies

emptyfridge · 02/04/2020 13:55

Really confused as to why the government are taking on thousands of volunteers to support the NHS and we are constantly being told of the immense pressure staff are under when my perfectly capable SIL is working from home apparently catching up on paperwork?

OP posts:
LEELULUMPKIN · 02/04/2020 16:17

I think it depends on the individual trusts.

My BBF is a medical Secretary but she has been moved on to a ward to help out.

LastTrainEast · 02/04/2020 16:19

"Why is she entitled to school places for her dc when she is working from home and can look after them herself?" because she is working from home. Not taking a holiday.

WaitroseCheapestVodka · 02/04/2020 16:23

Lots of clinics are cancelled or changed to videocalls. Whatever your SIL is doing will be different to what untrained volunteers will be doing. Her line manager won't be letting her fuck about, lots of different HCPs are being redeployed to allow acute and critical care staff to care for covid patients.

Your gripe changed from your OP though to be about keyworker perks. It just sounds a bit grasping tbh. From home she may still have a role that is impossible to also supervise her children. Or not. But it doesn't effect you at all, or your entitlement to anything.

Qwerty543 · 02/04/2020 16:41

Bitter much. Clearly your important calls and 3 DC are not occupying your time enough if you are giving headspace to this non issue.

MNnicknameforCVthreads · 02/04/2020 16:41

Not RTFT, but YABU

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 02/04/2020 16:42

I’m doing some of my work at home (work in mh) we doing less with the residents and less staff are in at one time as this reduces risk but should we need more staff in or change shifts around

Meetings can only have so many in the room so other link in via video and we rotate who shall be at home

Doing report writing at home.

So working two half days at home

This means ds can be at school less

Threeflyingducks · 02/04/2020 16:42

Op, when you whinge about you or other people working from home while looking after kids, you're conveniently forgetting that if in non keyworker roles, there is usually:
Some flexibility about the hours that work can be done (eg so parents can work after kids gone to bed)
Less work than usual because of the impact on business
Acceptance that those kids at home cannot be as productive as if they were in the office

In keyworker roles the opposite is usually true. I'm a social worker, I'm WFH most the time, but I HAVE to be available at specific hours when I'm on duty, and I'm doing extra duty days to cover colleagues who are either off sick or working and caring for kids (as the two are not compatible)
The amount of work we are doing has skyrocketed.
A lot of my job is paperwork. It is still important work that has a purpose.

If the school felt that your SIL didn't need a school place they would have said so. If the general public felt that only ward staff should get the shopping slots they would have said so. Everyone in the NHS and designated keyworker roles has their part to play. Perhaps you should try and do something useful instead of complaining about others?

BanKittenHeels · 02/04/2020 16:45

Many are working on a dirty shift and clean shift rotation - or will be soon.
I’m off work now but before I was asked to stay at home the plan was for the staff in our department (and those deployed into it) to be split into six. One half works from home or away from the front line “clean” for 2 weeks and the other shift work front line “dirty” for 2 weeks. Then it’s all swap.

Lweji · 02/04/2020 16:45

This
And if it is crucial and you have to put in a full day at it, then your children will need to be at school and you do deserve a special shopping slot.

sandragreen · 02/04/2020 16:47

Wow! You really do not like your SIL do you OP?

IncyWincy23 · 02/04/2020 16:49

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend well obviously not.
There’s so much more I’d love to say in reply to your comment but you’d probably turn it back around and make me the bad person 🤷🏼‍♀️

Greenpop21 · 02/04/2020 16:49

I thought you were being unreasonable until you said she’s using school spaces. Teachers and school staff shouldn’t be looking after your children unless they absolutely can’t be looked after at home. She’s a CF and I bet she hasn’t told school she’s wfh.

BLACKTUESDAY1 · 02/04/2020 16:51

I'm NHS admin in a large hospital. We have been begging to work from home but been told no. All squashed in small offices..no social distancing. Our work could be done quite easily from home

Joliany · 02/04/2020 16:51

Why is she entitled to school places for her dc when she is working from home and can look after them herself

Because shes working. And it's impossible to work and educate kids at the same time. So, as a keyworker, her kids have a school place.

Ghostlyglow · 02/04/2020 16:52

I work in an NHS organisation of over 200 people. We are classed as front line so still working. They are trying to get as many of us working from home as they can so we are at less risk of getting ill.
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 02/04/2020 16:52

IncyWincy23

I’m not trying to make anyone a bad person, personally found the comment quite crass.! everyone needs to feed their families irregardless of their employment status... not everyone is panic buying.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 02/04/2020 16:56

Because shes working. And it's impossible to work and educate kids at the same time. So, as a keyworker, her kids have a school place.

I completely disagree with this... it’s not impossible however it is difficult and more challenging hundreds of thousands if not millions are currently doing this.

Myself and my dh are... I’m a key worker.. have a letter and a badge and everything Gin still managing to homeschool and work from home (office every other week)... as are my team and other colleagues across my company.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 02/04/2020 16:56

And council also.

Greenpop21 · 02/04/2020 16:57

Other people are having to wfh with their kids to manage too.

pourmeanotherglass · 02/04/2020 16:58

I work for the NHS in a non patient- facing role and am working from home this week. There are too many of us in too small an office space to achieve social distancing if we all went in, and some tasks can be done from home. I'm due in for a couple of days next week.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 02/04/2020 16:58

We can only hold conferences calls if we can be assured they will be absolutely confidential

Not everyone had a study/office at home

And as others have pointed out the NHS is a team we all rely on each other for our work to run as smoothly as possible as with other organisations. Two hours today sorting out an IT issue - he was at home I wasn’t

canigooutyet · 02/04/2020 17:03

@BanKittenHeels
The dirty/clean shift seems to be a common theme across all nhs departments.
Past two weeks a friend has been on clean duty. Imagine that, a gps nurse on paper work etc from home.
Next week she’s back on dirty shift, and could be sent over the the Excel for 2 weeks.

If it keeps their stress levels down give them priority slots. Give them help with childcare because no more than ever they deserve this and a whole lot more.

Even the 2 clean weeks aren’t easy. You are still crapping yourself that you might have it. They are seeing far more deaths at the moment than normal. More critical patients at the moment.

I cannot do much at the moment, I’m here offering my full help and support to try and ease friends stresses. I know I could have easily gone to a number of friends in the nhs to get a slot, even though we were at almost nothing, I didn’t even mention I was running low on anything. I’m not dealing with what they are going through at the moment.

This is going to break a lot of nhs staff from the cleaners all the way to the top.

Understand your having a moan because you are frustrated. Don’t hold that frustration against her for those “perks” she has. They really aren’t perks. Nothing enjoyable about the mental and emotional damage this will cause.

It might sound like she’s enjoying them. But take a moment and think about it. That paperwork might be patients, and just because she’s not there in the midst of it, those notes might not be easy reading.

Alsohuman · 02/04/2020 17:12

When I worked in the NHS I could have worked anywhere. We were so short of office space they were begging us to work from home.

Lweji · 02/04/2020 17:13

Other people are having to wfh with their kids to manage too.
For the NHS?

ilovesooty · 02/04/2020 17:14

we normally get on

Let's hope she doesn't see this thread then.