Likelihood of a revolution now?..

[Developmentconcern]

I’m neither pro nor anti royal. Very impartial. I certainly don’t think they’re essential but I respect the history.

AIBU to think that the current crisis could eventually motivate people to question their appropriateness in this day and age? Could a revolution potentially be on the cards?

@Developmentconcern

NOPE.

Nice try at an anti-Royal thread, but people have FAR bigger things to worry about than hating on the Royals. I am very pleased that you DON'T

ALSO, the poll results tell you what you need to know. Most people disagree with you. That the Royal family are here to stay.

Sorry and all that.......

1. not going to happen
2. HM the Queen has no power really, does she.

THIS is what you choose to think about at this time?

Don’t be so fucking ridiculous.

The role and duties of a Head of State - where there is also a prime minister - are largely ceremonial.

Are you proposing that we dispense with a Head of State and just have a Prime Minister? That means that in normal times, he or she would have to be prepared to fly off at a moment's notice to represent the country on a symbolic level, as well as actually run the country.

Don't you think that would make the job description just a little too big?

there are elements of the RF that I love (I’ve always been a bit of a sucker for tradition and pageantry) and I’m perhaps a little more interested owing to the fact that my family are not British. I tend to be quite fascinated by differences in various cultures and I like many of the quirks of ‘Britishness” that the RF embody. Love a good jubilee, love a good royal wedding.

I was however DISGUSTED by the Andrew allegations and the subsequent handling of the crisis. The fact that surely she knew he was continuing to socialise with him despite the previous allegations of abuse by JE.

I’ll admit this put me off. I’m amazed if it doesn’t have the same effect on other people.

I also don’t believe that they generate more than they cost. Never have done. This didn’t put me off before but I’ll admit that it is starting to now.

Perch - don’t begin to assume how I’ve been affected by this crisis.

I have some rare time on my hands and I’m pissing about on a public entertainment forum.

@Developmentconcern

I have some rare time on my hands and I’m pissing about on a public entertainment forum.

Tedsfederation - good point. I appreciate that it is not a straightforward transition.

These state representation obligations that you speak of - do you have examples of exactly where the RF are adding significant value here where a PM wouldn’t?

Here we go again!!! Yet ANOTHER pointless thread about the Royal Family.

Same discussion different day.

Do people not look to see if there is already a thread about a subject??

I'm still waiting for you to say who you would propose for the job first...

Yeah fuck it when we are off lock down let's go throw eggs at Buckingham palace and shit through the letter box! Whose with me?

It's the only way to do it in any country. An armed struggle/violent uprising is the only way to unseat a monarchy. I'd be all for it.

Ha. You'd most likely be shitting yourself in the cupboard under the stairs come the violent uprising

I believe there’s a high chance the current crisis will lead to revolution or uprising in other countries (mainly developing countries) where authorities are using much harsher methods and punishments to enforce quarantine.

In this country? Over royals? No.

If anything the crisis will hopefully have a positive effect in waking people up to how essential the NHS is and how we’ve let the Tories quietly try to dismantle it. Plus the demonisation of low-paid NHS workers who until a month or so ago we were being told were not essential or skilled!

Hopefully it will lead to some groundswell against the Tories.

Anyway, let's not talk about chucking eggs right now when people in some parts of the country can't get their hands on them for love or money. Waste of good food.

Still sticking with HMQ but thanks for an entertaining few minutes, OP.

I think there will be social upheaval and civil disobedience in months to come but I don’t think it will de directed toward the royals.

I’m not a royalist - far from it, I’m from a country which is partially occupied by the British - but I don’t want to see a family harmed or murdered. Which let’s face it, is the only way a proper anti-monarchist revolution could be successful.

Wouldn't we need to give the monarchy back its power before we can have a revolution?

May well be some revolution of some kind at this rate though. There's plenty to revolt against!

@Ponoka7 people will still visit Scotland, Ireland and wales without tge Royal Family. Up her we have a lot to draw in tourism and do very well from it.

Teds - but they are elected. You can’t run away from that.

Kim Jong Un is elected? Seriously?

We would still need a Head of State.
Someone like Donald Trump?
Viktor Orbán?
Kim Jong-Un?
Vladimir Putin?
No thanks. I'll stick with HMQ if it's all the same to you.

Should people be allowed to vote, I am willing to bet my husband that we would get someone like Trump.
However, maybe people here need a bit of Putin to put things in perspective...

So you think people are willing to kill or more likely be killed about this? Seriously OP, think about it for a minute.

I’m no royalist but like fuck would I support an uprising against the monarchy. Also, if you follow the revolution position to the next stage, which is essential to end an unelected portion of our establishment, you have to rise up against the House of Lords and all hereditary peers. Good luck with that.

Yes, I think there will definitely be a revolution OP. Probably on a Wednesday afternoon. At about half past three. Unless it’s raining. No wants to revolt if it’s a bit drizzly. In that case we will probably just stay at home and have a nice cup of tea.

No.

I think the RF has problems in the medium term. Elizabeth is genuinely popular and I don't think there's any serious wish to depose her in favour of an alternative ceremonial head of state. However, I'm not sure Charles has the same underlying popularity. When he ascends to the throne it will, for many people (including me) be the first time the monarch has changed. A lot of people will see it as a negative change (a less-good monarch, if you will) and will be aware that they had no role in making the choice. That could start to change some opinions, but not while Elizabeth is alive. I'm not sure it would be an issue if Charles stepped aside for William, either, but I don't think Charles has any intention of doing that.

As for who would replace. Plenty of countries have elected a ceremonial head of state while an elected politician heads the government. Germany is the most obvious example I can think of (and it's telling that I've no idea who the German president is). If Britain followed that path, nothing would prevent current members of the RF from standing for election, if they wished. But with the electorate, there's always a danger we'd vote for Mr Tumble, David Beckham or that mouthy git from the Apprentice (not Alan Sugar, necessarily).

As for 'tourists wouldn't visit without the royals' - seriously? That's why Versailles is devoid of tourists, since a royal palace without a monarchy is of no interest to anyone. Or Potsdam? Tsarist Petersburg? Beijing's Forbidden City? Etc. Except that visitors to those places contribute their admission fees to preserving the heritage they've come to see, not to the funds of one of the richest families in the country (terms and conditions apply, etc).

An armed struggle/violent uprising is the only way to unseat a monarchy. I'd be all for it.

I can’t actually decide if that’s desperately disturbing or comical. Yes let’s all get violent against our ninety three year old queen..

I think it’s disturbing.

Op fortunately the answer is no, we won’t have a revolution or civil war
And any twats who rightly try it will be treated like the criminals they are and thrown in jail.

Who'd have thought we'd be talking about a revolution.....