Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Advice to help negative 8 year old

6 replies

Ilovetea09 · 30/03/2020 21:07

Hi there. Aibu to feel so sad for my negative son?
My son is nearly 9. He has a lovely life, a perfect life, a mum and dad who adore him, grandparents who adore him, a little sister, a pet dog, a lovely house, lovely food, lovely bedroom. He has everything he could possibly want and need but not spoiled. He has to earn treats etc.
Background.... We have had problems with him all of his life. He was an intense toddler. But happy. A fab big brother. When he started school the problems started almost immediately, mainly social such as obsessing over friends and not understanding social queues. Also lack of focus in class. I have had to have many conversations over the years with teachers. It is very stressful.
Over the years as he has matured his social side has improved dramatically. He has lots of friends. He still has trouble concentrating in class but really tries hard and is getting positive feedback from teachers and things in place to help him. We have a lot of involvement in school working together to get the best out of him.
We had a referral to cahms as school wanted us to as they suspected adhd or high functioning autism. Cahms assessed and said its anxiety. He sat quietly in the meetings and maintained eye contact with them they said. We were then referred to younger minds and he had 10 counselling sessions which did not work as he cannot /will not retain the information. But all of that is another story as he will never get a diagnosis due to cuts in funding etc they have discharged us and just left us to it.

Anyway, with other people he is the happiest boy you could meet. People comment to us all the time what a wonderful boy he is. So funny, caring, kind, confident, mature, a pleasure to have over at their houses. He's amazingly well behaved in public. Fine for other family members.
At home he is a different child. He is very solemn, negative, sad, moody, miserable. Doesn't want to play anything, join in with the family. Wants everything his way 100% of the time. If not he will have a massive fit of rage. He wants to control all situations at home and be the centre of attention 100% of the time.
If we have to tell him off or he doesn't a win a game or he's not allowed to watch TV or something, he tells us he hates us. We are the worst parents ever. As soon as he is 18 he is leaving and never going to see us again. We try to give him a wonderful life, everything as positive as we can. But if the slightest thing doesn't go his way this is what he will say to us. When he's calmed down after 10 minutes he will be fine again and loving towards us. But this happens many times per day. It is vary wearing.
We took them to disneyworld florida. It was absolutely amazing. He said he was bored, pulled his face a lot, didn't do as he was told, and was generally miserable the whole time.
He puts no effort into anything asked of him. He gets no joy out of anything. If we manage to coax him to play a game, or play outside, he will have a fun time and laugh and it's perfect and then it's like he remembers he needs to be negative and he will change how he's acting and spoil it all.
He will say to me he hates being a child. He can't wait to be an adult to do whatever he wants. I am so worried about his future. A childhood should be the happiest time and he has absolutely nothing to be so miserable about. Adulthood is not all fun and games and I worry how he will cope out in the real world and how he will treat us as he gets older. I worry he will be alone as no partner would willingly put up with how he acts. I worry how he will keep a job as he hates being told what to do. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

OP posts:
Ilovetea09 · 30/03/2020 21:08

Wow sorry that's so long

OP posts:
toomuchpeppapig · 31/03/2020 09:58

I don't have any advice op but I'm hoping my comment will bump your thread so that someone else can help....

Fatted · 31/03/2020 10:19

I do think your DC has some form of autism or ADHD. He sounds very similar to my eldest and he is currently being assessed for those things.

In my experience with DS, the best thing I can advise is to stop trying to force him to join in. Let him be alone, let him have time to himself to let off steam. My DS is happiest when he is on his own and I make sure he gets time to be alone most days.

We do have family time together. He does complain about it. We just have to ignore it. Ignore the tantrums, ignore the insults, even when I am raging inside. Because if I react, it just descends into chaos. Happy smile on and ignore, ignore, ignore. Let him choose activities he wants to do. Find out what he does enjoy and let him do those things. But also let him see everyone gets a turn. If he doesn't play nice, letting others have a turn he etc, the activity stops and he gets sent to his room. Which is good because it lets everyone calm down.

It is draining. I posted on here once about finding my kids draining and I got ripped to shreds for it. But until you have lived it, I don't think people can understand just how mentally exhausting it is. He had a meltdown on Sunday over the clocks going forward because he had lost an hour. Crying, screaming and sprawling over the floor.

Also try to encourage him to talk about his emotions when he is calm. Help him recognise his emotions - anger, frustration etc. Tell him you understand those emotions and why he feels the way he does. But that is not a reason to behave the way he does.

If I'm honest, I probably am very like DS1, so I try to recognise how I would feel in his shoes and do what I can to help and support him. But it's not easy! Keep your head up OP, you're doing a great job!

BogRollBOGOF · 31/03/2020 10:35

Your description reminds me of my DS (9) with high functioning ASD (and dyslexia and dyspraxia) who was diagnosed at 8 after the cracks began showing at 7. He masks his way through school, and releases that frustration at home.

He needs plenty of space to just be with no expectation. Minecraft is his favoured zoning out activity. Lots of boundaries and warnings for transitions. We've always acknowledged what he has found challenging and his strengths and he has a reasonable self esteem around those. He does need reassuring if he's done badly in something that was inevitably going to be tough.

We got the ASD diagnosis via GP referral.

SlipSlidin · 31/03/2020 10:54

I used to counsel dc in anxiety management in my previous job and agree with pp that this sounds like ASD.

It will be difficult in this trying time to get a diagnosis but there is a lot of online support and parent forums.

Lower your expectations of him, you’re his soft place to fall which doesn’t mean you’re to put up with everything but he doesn’t have to be “on” with you. Hope that makes sense. Good luck op.

Ilovetea09 · 31/03/2020 14:48

I don't believe we can get a diagnosis now as he has been discharged from cahms.
As I said he is a perfect child in the meetings and very mature. They sent someone in to observe him in school and again he was perfect. They said he wouldn't be able to control his behaviour if he had adhd or asd.
I found the whole thing very stressful

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread