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AIBU and racist (by accident/ignorance)?

18 replies

RonnieBarkingMad · 28/03/2020 13:12

I got snapped at this morning because I said “and the bastard got away scot free” talking about somebody horrible in the news and someone said me saying that is offensive to Scottish people because it references their breaking away from England and my comment made me anti-Scottish. I obviously didn’t mean to be as I wasn’t being nasty about Scottish people, I don’t even know if the man I was talking about in the news is Scottish, I was just saying it as a general phrase. I can fully accept if I am as It wasn’t until this site that I knew describing a child “throwing a paddy” was offensive to Irish people - it was a phrase I had grown up with and I have never thought it offensive to a group of people, obviously now I know I don’t use it any more. Is this the same? I won’t say it anymore if this is the case. Would this offend you if you are Scottish and an English person said this? Should also note that my phone auto corrected “scot free” to a capital S which I had to change which may hold some weight to their point.

OP posts:
koshkatt · 28/03/2020 13:14

Doesn't this mean tax free or something like that? Or someone who has not paid? It's nothing to do with Scotland leaving the Union, that's for sure!

Cacaca · 28/03/2020 13:15

Absolutely nonsense - no Scottish person I know would be remotely offended by that - if they were then that’s because they’re a complete idiot.

elQuintoConyo · 28/03/2020 13:16

This idiom comes from the old English word sceot, meaning a ‘tax’. People were scot-free if they didn’t have to pay the tax.

So, there you go.

Bojo1 · 28/03/2020 13:16

I’m Scottish and it didn’t offend me as I had no idea that the phrase was in reference to that. Now I do, I’m still not offended

VadenuRewetje · 28/03/2020 13:16

"The expression 'Scot-free' originates from the Scandanavian word, 'Skat,' which means “tax” or “payment.” The word mutated into 'scot' as the name of redistributive taxation meant to provide relief to the poor during the 10th century"

the person who accused you on this was being ignorant.

crustycrab · 28/03/2020 13:17

Well the phrase has nothing to do with being Scottish or Scotland so you can now snap back at them and tell them they are the ignorant one 👍🏼

DesLynamsMoustache · 28/03/2020 13:17

Yeah that's not where the phrase comes from so they're ignorant as well as rude.

OverUnderSidewaysDown · 28/03/2020 13:18

Two seconds on Google gives you this:

scotch free / scot free. Getting away with something “scot free” has nothing to do with the Scots (or Scotch). The scot was a medieval tax; if you evaded paying it you got off scot free.

Dyrne · 28/03/2020 13:18

Whoever snapped at you is an idiot. The origin is, as a PP said, to do with tax: www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/scot-free.html

BilboBercow · 28/03/2020 13:18

I'm Scottish and not offended. I also don't think that's where the term originated from

OverUnderSidewaysDown · 28/03/2020 13:19

YABU for not doing the most basic research before posting.

RonnieBarkingMad · 28/03/2020 13:19

Thank you all Smile I wasn’t sure so I felt like I couldn’t defend myself properly at the time.

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ItsGoingTibiaK · 28/03/2020 13:23

I think you got away with this one, OP... 😉

Hirsutefirs · 28/03/2020 13:23

Yes, you have to say “bame-free” nowadays.

EyeSoLated · 28/03/2020 13:25

It's not racist if you didn't mean it to be. It's all about your motivation for saying something, not necessarily what you say, that makes a person's words racist.

mumofBeth · 28/03/2020 13:26

I'm Scottish and I'm definitely not offended, it's just a saying. People are too quick to be offended these days.

iklboo · 28/03/2020 13:28

It's not racist if you didn't mean it to be

It's not racist AT ALL.

EyeSoLated · 28/03/2020 13:31

Iklboo I know, I was speaking generally.

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