To wonder that it doesn’t seem to be ok to express ones true feelings on MN?

[Amazemae]

I have noticed the way some posters jump right on others. Yes it’s ok to be struggling with the lockdown and yes people may feel it is unnecessary for these restrictions but surely by attacking them it’s not going to help. We all need to express our feelings at times no matter how unreasonable as it can be first step towards changing the way we feel. Saddened with the way some people are trying to reach out but virtually stamped on and told they are wrong and they should see the bigger picture. It’s not always possible to see the bigger picture when one is drowning in sadness, anxiety and isolation.

I've spent weeks and weeks listening to people whinging about having to change their behaviour just to keep the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions alive. And I have to be kind because they can't cope with staying indoors? No thanks, I think I'm all out of kind.

I don't know what goes on in some people's heads - I always assume they are pretty miserable people and they just want to share their misery.

@FourTeaFallOut so you're all out of kind - do you now just spread misery and snipe and bite at everyone who posts, do you feel angry all the time or just on MN?

Not even all the time on MN. Just exclusively on the threads when people are complaining about how those with pre-existing conditions were all going to die anyway, so what's the point in all this fuss?

@FourTeaFallOut I think people like that have lost something in their hearts - don't let them lose something in yours - getting angry with them won't change their opinion but it will make you more miserable - just block the thread and walk away.

Certain feelings and opinions are Not Allowed on mumsnet.

‘‘Twas ever thus 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'd need all twelve weeks in isolation to cultivate that level of Dali Lama calm, I might have to chose the blocking option

@Amazemae Thanks for bringing it up, you're not the first I've seen saying it and I too have been 'spoken' to in nasty ways a few times. Those people should be banned for a few days or else permanently. It wouldn't be allowed on a lot of other forums out there. Seriously. And it puts me off coming here but I know most people are good so still check in from time to time.

I'm with you Four. Also sick of "MH" used to justify every single thing.

At times everyone struggles with depression, sadness, self-doubt, lack of motivation, anxiety, worry, rage, fear etc etc - these are natural emotions - labelling everything "MH" , (not even "poor mental health" which would at least be correct) - as if that means that you are special is ridiculous. (Usually used so people can break the rules and thus put everyone else at risk).

This is rough for everyone. True, harder for some than others, but we all have to get on and do the best we can.

I know I must have seen a thousand times people saying well x amount of people would have died of flu in any case, so they don't really count. And that we should count up how many have died at the end of all this and how it compares with last year's mortality figures, as though only the excess counts. But they all count, they didn't die of flu, they died of a new virus that didn't exist four months ago.

I have sat on my hands when people have said about how people will commit suicide because of the lockdown and tried not to say, maybe we should compare them with last year's suicide figures to see if they count? It's the same logic, but it makes me a horrible shit to even think it. But the logic is comparable and equally heartless. Yes, I think I'm going to have to take a break form MN.

Have people lost some of the resilience of the past? Have the current thinking of how to treat mental health meant that we are less resilient?

I must admit I find when people start posting that their frail mental health becomes more important than frail physical health to be rather shocking. In the lack of empathy, I am sure that some people are showing their complete focus on their own issues.

I can certainly understand if people are in an abusive situation. That is an entirely different situation.

@Luckystar777 People justify unpleasantness as straight talking. Hope you are ok. If someone is already anxious, nasty comments may just tip them over the edge.

Even in this post, my using the term reach out was criticised 🙄

Resilience my fecking arse! I grew up in the 70s in Northern Ireland, it was hell - we didn't talk it, we didn't talk about Mental Health - we parked it all - but it was felt and still is amongst many. If you've experienced trauma and got through it without mental scars you are very bloody lucky and should accept your luck rather than expecting everyone else to be as lucky as you. Shame on you!

Where do you draw the line though. Some of the posts on mumsnet are a bit like Sam Smith crying on his door step about self isolation - empathy is not my first response

Ignore and move on - you don't need to comment on everything!

@Amazemae Yes they do, it's just horrible. I'm fine, I keep on going, try not to let nasty comments affect but sometimes it is hard. Yes if you're already anxious it can have terrible effects. On another forum I'm on, you can ignore certain members, it blocks all their comments so you don't have to see them which is good because it's really only a few of the same ones who are mean. Anyway, keep on and try to ignore them ;)