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'Stay local to exercise' is rubbish

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ThePants999 · 27/03/2020 18:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52062209

Taking public transport to start your exercise is obviously counterproductive.

Driving to somewhere where loads of other people are also going to exercise is not exactly ideal.

Driving to somewhere in the middle of nowhere to go for a walk? Not only is that perfectly safe, I'm going to assert that it's BETTER than walking from your house, especially if you live in a built-up area.

AIBU? And if I'm being U - why? How am I endangering anyone by going out to the countryside by car instead of walking round my town?

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ThePants999 · 27/03/2020 21:59

For all those people attacking me rather than my argument, by the way, you're wasting your typing. Not only are you missing the point of the thread (and so I won't be replying to any of you individually), I'm a couch potato who doesn't exercise at all - I'm entirely unaffected by this new advice as I won't be walking anywhere Grin Doesn't stop me questioning whether it's good or bad advice for everyone else, though. Happy keyboard warring.

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Cohle · 27/03/2020 22:00

Minimising viral spread risk means minimising the set of people I get close to, so if we're comparing "walk past a hundred houses" with "walk past yours", telling me to do the former sounds like it's just NIMBYism rather than public health advice.

But it is public health advice. Whether you like it or not. Because experts, actual experts not armchair ones pontificating on the internet, have identified that this is the most effective way to reduce the spread.

airbags · 27/03/2020 22:02

@TheLadyAnneNeville

I have an autistic daughter. I've dealt with all sorts of behaviour and meltdowns this week. I'd rather have to manage her behaviour than someone die. But you might feel differently.

CarlottaValdez · 27/03/2020 22:03

Or as a friend of mine said recently when his stepdad died "well he was very old, dementia and in heart failure, he was going to die very soon anyway"

Well that sounds true.

LaurieMarlow · 27/03/2020 22:07

You have gone from zero risk ( stay at home) to a “minuscule“ risk.

No you haven’t.

Exercising in a crowded, built up place carries greater risk of spreading CV.

Pishposhpashy · 27/03/2020 22:09

Also staying at home isn't zero risk.

CeriseClementine · 27/03/2020 22:10

This thread is perfect proof that plenty of people think that they and their individual situations are just too fucking special to have to comply with the rules.

There are less people in the Country than my street. It was only four minutes away by car. I got some milk on the way home so essentials were also included. Obviously people going to Snowdon are twats but i'm not because I only go to wide open Countryside where there's no one in sight. I have to look after my mental health. I'd be at just as much risk driving to Tesco. I'm comfortable with the minor risk of gate transmission.

Fucktards, the lot of you. A perfect demonstration of why Boris has to dumb down the rules and make them far stricter so that those of you who are obviously so different to the other 60 odd million in this Country are forced to bloody comply.

airbags · 27/03/2020 22:10

@ThePants999

So now you're distancing yourself from your own argument?! You're the type that throws in a hand grenade and then happily sits back to watch the outcome? - Nice.

"Happy keyboard warring" and "I'm a couch potato"- says it all really. Maybe you should get your arse off your couch and find a better way of entertaining yourself.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 27/03/2020 22:13

I agree but the self righteous MNetters will slam you

TheLadyAnneNeville · 27/03/2020 22:13

@airbags, it’s not a competition. “My situation is tougher than yours”. You know nothing of me or my son.

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ThePants999 · 27/03/2020 22:14

But it is public health advice. Whether you like it or not. Because experts, actual experts not armchair ones pontificating on the internet, have identified that this is the most effective way to reduce the spread.

Then someone should have no trouble explaining why they're correct, then, right?

(FWIW, though, I don't rate Derbyshire Police as epidemiology experts...)

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Cohle · 27/03/2020 22:15

Then someone should have no trouble explaining why they're correct, then, right?

There's a daily press conference. Listen to the experts - directly - not what you want to hear from the internet.

Leflic · 27/03/2020 22:16

ThePants999 Ok I accept that you wanted to discuss leaving the house either way.
The advice is to Stay at Home. Which means both local and a drive should be quieter. Exercise is not compulsory, People shouldn’t be out long anyway. If you stay local the virus stays local.
If you drive, you obviously run the risks of driving which may well be minuscule. But more importantly if you say it’s ok for you to drive somewhere remote then it’s ok for everyone. And we are right back to last weekends jolly. That’s the danger.

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ThePants999 · 27/03/2020 22:21

There's a daily press conference. Listen to the experts - directly
If you can link me to a video where an expert explains why everyone walking in built-up areas is better than people dispersing by car for their walk, I'll apologise for wasting everyone's time, as that's exactly what I've been after - an explanation of this "expert" advice.

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BluePheasant · 27/03/2020 22:21

How hard is it to understand?

We have to minimise travel.
The more cars on the road there are, the more accidents, breakdowns and trips to the petrols stations. The emergency services will be stretched to the limit with out people adding to that because they can't bring themselves to adapt their lives for a short period.

Everything you touch. Every interaction with another person is a risk of transmission.

Stay at home.

airbags · 27/03/2020 22:21

@TheLadyAnneNeville

Check yourself, I wasn't competing - nothing about my post indicated as such. As the mum of an autistic daughter I see it as my job to help her through this - and that wouldn't involve risking others in the process.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 27/03/2020 22:22

@CarlottaValdez

Reminds me of the woman on twitter complaining that her 90 year old m-i-l whom she had spent the last several years posting about how she disliked her because she was a Brexit voting DM reader, before complaining about the nursing home not getting staff because of Brexit, before finally complaining that her m-i-l had died before getting the results of her covid-19 test, while Boris had got his already, as if it made a difference. She was already attributing her mother in law's death from Brexit a year before she died.

LaurieMarlow · 27/03/2020 22:22

Exercise is not compulsory

It should be strongly encouraged though. Storing up future problems for the NHS is not a good idea.

Leflic · 27/03/2020 22:23

Exercising in a crowded, built up place carries greater risk of spreading CV.
So don’t. Stay at Home if that’s where you live.

Maybe open the beaches, parks and national trust gardens again and hope people will keep their distance, not meet up with people they don’t live with and wash their hands etc.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 27/03/2020 22:26

Yes, not exercising is very dangerous. I imagine there are numbers from the epidemiologists about the number of years of life lost as a result of people not exercising due to inappropriate lockdown advice. It will be real numbers of real dead and seriously ill people as a result of preventable illness that can be attributed to this. That of course is set against the deaths and costs of covid-19, and that's why we have the advice we have, not whatever other crap wankers on the internet want to make it how you should lock yourself in at home because you might kill someone by using the petrol pump or any other of the ridiculous scenarios that ignore the basic mathematics of virus spreading that the government scientists have already modelled and internet wankers havent

Thisisworsethananticpated · 27/03/2020 22:27

It’s so wierd
All the local places which are usually deserted
Or frequented by perverts and rapists

Are now chokka !

ownround · 27/03/2020 22:29

Those who clapped and applauded the NHS will surely see the reason to stay at home?

We need to work together to reduce the spread of the virus, so that the NHS and keyworkers can cope. Keyworkers include petrol suppliers/petrol station staff, too.
This isn't scaremongering. This is very basic common sense, surely?

TheLadyAnneNeville · 27/03/2020 22:29

Do not judge me @airbags. Driving my son 1.3 miles up the road to a spot he WILL walk in is not going to kill him. Being stuck in his room 24/7 might.
You do what’s right for yours.

LaurieMarlow · 27/03/2020 22:32

Stay at Home if that’s where you live.

People really need to think about the impact of being cooped up in doors has on people’s physical and mental health.

When at the same time driving to an isolated spot and sensible exercising there carries virtually no risk of of spreading this.

I am 100% behind social distancing. However we need to be very careful about implementing what’s necessary without forbidding healthy, safe activities.