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To ask if you think if not back till Sept,. the kids will have to redo the school year?

101 replies

Thelowquietsea · 26/03/2020 13:19

Just a thought. Someone mooted it to me today and it hadn't occurred to me. DS is in primary.

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withlotsoflove · 26/03/2020 15:04

I think the yr6 children could suffer emotionally.
No preparation for secondary isn’t great.
Suddenly leaving the routine of a primary school is upsetting.

rattusrattus20 · 26/03/2020 15:05

Not a chance. It'd IMO need to be mid/late October at the latest.

Zilla1 · 26/03/2020 15:09

Not in England and Wales. More than half the school year was completed and there's normally some roll backfire the six week's Summer break. The sausage machine wouldn't easily cope with two years at any stage back to reception so I'd expect the exit years in Y11 and y13 work on predicted grades plus exams where this is requested (the equivalent of resits). Every other year progresses as normal with teachers helping individual students catch up much like qualitatively they'd do anyway but on a larger scale.

TerrorWig · 26/03/2020 15:10

I would love that for my older boys who are very behind (Y6 but reading at a y3 level).

What I reckon it will mean is it’s even less likely they’ll catch up by GCSE time.

JellyXwellies · 26/03/2020 15:13

I think everyone has a personal concern regarding their own child with this. You can argue that reception kids will be fine. But reception is a year of play and basic reading/writing/maths to get them prepared for the future. Whilst they may not be missing out on anything much education wise, Taking such a long break from the new way of life they started in September will create problems in itself.

Some children in reception (mine,) have only just started joining in, picking up the basics and grasping the routine. 5 months time in the mixed year 1/2 class my child will be so lost. I'm sure she won't be alone in this and I'm sure others will adjust quickly. I just know she's going to be back to square one. It took months for her to remember to put her reading folder in the box, coat away and drink bottle in the basket, collect her name and sit on the carpet. At parents evening two weeks ago the teacher said she is such a sweet girl and she was still not as quick as some of others but she didn't want to nag her all the time. She said she just wanted her happy to be at school. Now I worry with such a long break/different teacher she will end up hating school. She had another 14 weeks to learn and mature. I feel the only way she will improve is exposure and consistency. I just hope she doesn't loose her love of school.

From what everyone has said year one is alot different. I don't think it will cause her problems forever.... But I think it will be tough time for her. She associates school with play, outdoor learning, fun and more play. I am selfishly sad this has happened in her first year. In her school they do mixed years after reception. So any other year she would of been in the same class anyway.typical.

Pleasedontdrawonyoursister · 26/03/2020 15:15

We’ve been set work to do of course. But I have 2 primary DC at different levels and a toddler. We also both have to work so there is absolutely no way we can keep up with everything. My oldest DD is quite far behind as it is and she can’t do any of the set tasks alone. Just felt I had to add as some people seem to think that if you don’t do the set work then it’s because you’re lazy or selfish. Not at all! No they won’t be kept back a year. They’ll just have to catch up but then they’re all in the same boat so the schools/curriculum will have to adjust to compensate.

MrsLJ2014 · 26/03/2020 15:15

I'm a primary school teacher and we have already been told where we are in September - mostly we are staying in the same year group we were in already so not moving up with our class we just had. That wouldn't really work as where would the year 6 teachers go - nursery or reception!! I know as primary teachers we can teach the whole age range but we do become experts within certain year groups / key stages.
I really want to see my year 1s before they move up 😕

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/03/2020 15:16

I read on another thread that there have been noises apparently of winding the curriculum back. But tbh I don’t think this would be necessary for anyone yr8 or below. I think a lot of yr9 would also catch up. It’s more the years after this.

Younger, primary children will learn a great deal from just being with parents and doing activities together, especially if some come with learning objectives in mind. Yr6 is really all about sats so that’s the best year imo to be in right now. Once they’re out of the way, that ceases and it’s all fun and school plays. These were due to be taken w/c 10th May. Effectively with the Easter holidays, they will only miss 4 weeks of intense sats revision.

JellyXwellies · 26/03/2020 15:18

@MrsLJ2014

Are you thinking September? I hope you get to see them too. It's such a shame. Do you do any play still in year one? Do they go outside much?

Tonyaster · 26/03/2020 15:20

At primary??! Kids learn bugger all at primary anyway! Why would they have to repeat a year just because they've missed a term of cake sales?

genfromgrimsby · 26/03/2020 15:23

My DS is doing 5-6 hours of school work a day so I will be furious if he is expected to repeat the year for the sake of the summer term being missed. They will all be in the same boat so it will be unecessary for them to repeat.

genfromgrimsby · 26/03/2020 15:24

At primary??! Kids learn bugger all at primary anyway!

When did you last work as a primary school teacher?

MrsLJ2014 · 26/03/2020 15:26

JellyXwellies I'm not sure what I'm thinking, our head just let us know where we'd be in September so we could start on plans but she did also say be prepared to do another project we were working on in May or June.
We do still play in Year 1, mainly in the afternoons and less as they get closer to Year 2. It's tough for them - my own child is year 1 and misses all the play.
I don't even want to see my class to teach them - just to have fun!

JellyXwellies · 26/03/2020 15:27

@Tonyaster

Are you taking the pee???

They learn to read, write, do maths, do pe. Use tablets, science, history, art, crafts, they learn about celebrations such as Easter, Christnas, harvest festival. They also learn social skills.

I think they ideally need to do at least 3 months in their old classrooms. Maybe not a year but something.

Children's mental health should be taken into account with all this. They are living through a very unsettling time. Without telling them what's happening they still are not doing anything as normal. We will need to gradually help our kids adjust back to normality if this is going on for months. Children will not just bounce back into it full of confidence remembering where they left off. Especially primary kids. It's a shame so many adults think it's tough they will get over it. I think we will all get a shock !

MrsLJ2014 · 26/03/2020 15:27

JellyXwellies we get out when we can - PE and Science lend themselves to lots of outdoor learning!

Tonyaster · 26/03/2020 15:29

Ive had three kids go through primary and i can hand on heart say that I think missing a terms work wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference to their future outcomes.

JellyXwellies · 26/03/2020 15:30

@MrsLJ2014

You sound lovely! My daughter has mixed classes 1/2 so itl be a bit different I guess.

I can only imagine. I'm sure you are as find of them as they are of you. I know my little girl thinks so much of her first teacher. She was leaving in June anyway as she was on maternity cover. So sad for the little ones.

I really hope for that last six weeks. The kids will definitely benefit from it and will allow them to prepare for the next year. They just need that boost in my opinion after this confusing time.

QuestionMarkNow · 26/03/2020 15:33

No they wont go back until september .
And no they wont redo a year for ine missed term.

Instead there will be some cramming to do, esp for the Y2 and Y6 in primary (Y11 and Alevel) at secondary.

JellyXwellies · 26/03/2020 15:33

@Tonyaster

That's a shame. My child's in reception and I can see how much she has learned already. She can name all the planets. She can count and read a few words. She isn't the top of the class but she's still benefiting massively.

Yes they will all be ok. But

MrsLJ2014 · 26/03/2020 15:34

JellyXwellies Very fond of them, as I think most teachers are of their classes. So hard for them - my little boy still keeps thinking it's the holidays, doesn't understand that they may not be back for ages 😕

steppemum · 26/03/2020 15:36

Now I worry with such a long break/different teacher she will end up hating school. She had another 14 weeks to learn and mature.

I am a primary school teacher.

I promise you, that unless there is an issue, they will be fine.
The schools KNOW this is a problem, so for reception arriving in year 1, they will ease them in gently, ge them back into school routine and go form there.

The other point is that she is going to mature and change over the next 5 months. Her own delevlopment doesn't stand still.

reception is a year of play etc. Well, what are they doing at home? They are playing? Be a bit more pro-active with their play if you can (and absolutley no guilt if you can't).

if your child is already reading, keep reading, they will keep learning and grow while off school as much as while at school.

Primary age kids, and also year 7 and 8, will not have any long term effects, and honestly, truly , honestly unless there is a problem, they will be fine.
Schools know this. They really do. They will be putting stuff in place to help everyone ease back in, they will not expect them to leap into the next year's curriculum.

They learn lost at primary, but a few months at home is a place to learn too. Different stuff maybe, but they don't stop learning.

YgritteSnow · 26/03/2020 15:38

No. DD's school are still operating a full time table in academic subjects. All the curriculum is still being covered. She needs a bit of help but it's not too bad. I am simultaneously impressed and exhausted just looking at the amount of work she's covering

steppemum · 26/03/2020 15:39

They learn to read, write, do maths, do pe. Use tablets, science, history, art, crafts, they learn about celebrations such as Easter, Christnas, harvest festival. They also learn social skills.

yes they do, and in an avergae household they learn al that too.
So they may learn to weigh out and bake a cake, instead of the names of the planets, but it is still excellent science and maths.
How much of that is honestly not available at home? I know not for every child, but it is for most mn families.

steppemum · 26/03/2020 15:43

Pleasedontdrawonyoursister

do what you can, teachers aren't stupid, they know that family life means it isn't always possible to run the same curriculum at home.

If I was in your shoes, I would concentrate on core skills for your oldest. If she is primary, getting her reading up to the right level is the single most helpful thing you can do for her. It effects every other subject and massively effects confidence. Concentrate on that and it will pay off across the board

steppemum · 26/03/2020 15:46

if you are posting on here about your concerns about school, you are very unlikely to be in that group of kids who will suffer from this. That group includes kids who will go hungry, who will be at home frightened, with no safe place ot go, who will be exposed to drugs/alcohol or their effects, who are living in B&B with no proper cooking facilities.

Those kids are not going to be fine.

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