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To wish the BBC would make it clear what is happening in Scotland

58 replies

Aesopfable · 26/03/2020 07:20

The BBC keeps announcing things for the ‘UK’ when they only apply to England. For example NHS volunteers. AIBU to expect them to make this clear so we know what applies to Scotland and can (in theory) hold the Scottish Government to account?

For example, is Scotland going to get any of the 10,000 new ventilators from Dyson? Has the Scottish Government arranged to take over private beds or is this only happening in England? Why isn’t the mess that is childcare for key workers in Scotland being reported (only nhs, only a few spaces in large central hubs such as secondary schools even for P1 kids, not enough spaces for all front-line nhs workers who need them)? Why did they report schools as possibly not going until September when Scottish schools go back in August?

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dementedpixie · 26/03/2020 07:27

Go into the Scottish section of the BBC website for more info

hopeishere · 26/03/2020 07:29

I agree it's annoying but the local news comes on straight afterwards.

DivGirl · 26/03/2020 07:30

Even the Scottish news isn't reporting on this stuff, but to be honest I think you're being unreasonable. Scotland has an overinflated ego because of its physical size. They give more air time to Scottish issues than to Welsh or (and especially) NI stuff, and England has by far the higher population. The national news can't report on every local issue.

Scotgov do need to be held to account though. I have a friend in the extremely vulnerable group. There's no question about him being in it (recent transplant recipient, and additionally immunosuppressed for a separate condition). He has not been contacted by anyone, he has no idea who to get in touch with about getting food delivered, there is no community hub.

And before you all go all William Wallace on me and come charging at me on horseback - I am Scottish, living in Scotland.

HillAreas · 26/03/2020 07:33

I think it’s something to do with not really wanting to hold the Scottish “government” to account because it’s just not worth the abuse and aggravation.

florascotia2 · 26/03/2020 09:21

New Scottish website just launched here - only partial info so far but SCVO (Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations) are trying to co-ordinate:
coronavirus.scvo.org/

Many councils have new helplines - go to the local council's main website to find out more. Here is Highland Council's, for example:
www.highland.gov.uk/news/article/12424/highland_council_helpline_now_up_and_running

Scottish Health info website (re COVID):
www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/coronavirus-covid-19

If anyone wants to volunteer:

www.readyscotland.org/coronavirus/helping-in-your-community/

This is a general list of advice providers, not specifically to do with COVID, but might be useful:

www.readyscotland.org/coronavirus/where-to-find-additional-support/

LouScot · 26/03/2020 09:30

Op I totally agree. Have been thinking this, especially during Boris's addresses, that he needs to tag "England and Wales" on to certain sentences, especially when talking about NHS and education. Not getting into politics at all, but for the sake of clarity this needs to be reported accurately. Both the Pm and the BBCrepresenting the whole of the UK there, so needs to be making clear which areas they're referring to.

LouScot · 26/03/2020 09:31

Sorry for typos /mashed sentences! On phone

FuckOffCorona · 26/03/2020 09:38

The national news can't report on every local issue.

Not sure things like provision of ventilators and childcare for key workers are really ‘local issues’. I kind of had those in the ‘national emergency’ category myself.

MigginsMrs · 26/03/2020 09:40

I agree and they also keep saying we are a few weeks behind England, I’d like more detail on that and whether the measures now might have even more of a positive impact here

Bellevu · 26/03/2020 09:42

The population of London v the population of Scotland.

Then add together the entire population of England, Wales and northern Ireland, now compare with Scotland.

Sometimes it can feel as though people make noise for the sake of it.

Greendin · 26/03/2020 09:42

When Boris was making his live press conferences on lTV, you could watch Nicola Sturgeon making her Scottish speech either at the same time or straight after on the BBC Scotland news page on the BBC news app.

Aesopfable · 26/03/2020 11:32

I am not saying Scotland has to be given thee same coverage on the main news BUT thee BBC should not be saying ‘UK’ when they mean England and on the regional page they should be asking these questions to Scottish politicians. They just decided not to get rid of 450 news staff so surely they must have a few journalists in Scotland!

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Aesopfable · 26/03/2020 11:36

Not sure things like provision of ventilators and childcare for key workers are really ‘local issues’. I kind of had those in the ‘national emergency’ category myself.

If they were UK wide issues then I would have no problem with them reporting them as such but both the definition of ‘key worker’ and the childcare provision is very different in Scotland. I can only hope some of those ventilators will be coming to Scotland but the NHS is devolved and Nicola has made no mention of private beds or ordering more ventilators! I would like to know if they aren’t so people can ask her why!

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Amymayapple · 26/03/2020 11:37

I still sometimes wonder - why Scotland has not gone for their independence yet

Gingerkittykat · 26/03/2020 11:46

I agree that saying UK on the news instead of England (and Wales?) for measures is confusing to people here.

People on local groups wondering why they had not had their texts telling them if they were considered very vulnerable, no NHS volunteering and seemingly no register of priority people for help.

My local voluntary action is co-ordinating efforts and making lists and providing support but it looks like it has now switched to the council.

People can't even register as vulnerable for Sainsbury's because it takes you to NHS England site.

We need clearer guidance here, either from national or Scottish news and also the Scottish government site.

TheSandman · 26/03/2020 11:49

We need clearer guidance here, either from national or Scottish news and also the Scottish government site.

We need to be an independent country.

Oakmaiden · 26/03/2020 11:50

Have been thinking this, especially during Boris's addresses, that he needs to tag "England and Wales" on to certain sentences, especially when talking about NHS and education.

Health and Education are devolved to the Welsh Government. So it would just be "England".

Oakmaiden · 26/03/2020 11:51

That said - if you go onto the BBC news website and click - UK/.Scotland there is a whole section about the Scotland specific stuff?

Aesopfable · 26/03/2020 11:53

We need to be an independent country.

Then we definitely wouldn’t be getting anymore ventilators!

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Gingerkittykat · 26/03/2020 11:54

We need to be an independent country.

I'm pro indy but this is neither the time nor place to be talking about it, all of our efforts right now should be going into fighting the virus.

DivGirl · 26/03/2020 12:46

If there's one thing this crisis has shown it's that Scotland is not ready to be an independent nation. England has put so much in place so quickly but all the devolved parts of the infrastructure up here are floundering, and it's not a funding issue. My friends secondary aged DS hasn't been at school for over a week and still has absolutely no work issued, no online lessons, no communication at all. My vulnerable friends have no idea how they're going to get food. It's a nightmare.

I agree that this is not the time for an independence debate but saying things like "We need to be an independent country" is incredibly unhelpful on threads like this where people have real concerns about how things are running.

florascotia2 · 26/03/2020 12:48

As Oakmaiden says, there's a lot on the BBC Scotland website. See item posted at 11.08 today, for example (scroll down to find it):
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-52009346

I'm not saying anything either for or against Nicola Sturgeon, but every day since the lockdown she has been giving a press conference, together with health minister/official(s). It has been broadcast live by BBC Scotland (and today's has is just started) www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland .
And it's on BBC Radio Scotland, and on twitter....

There are not many supermarket branches of Sainsburys in Scotland (only 35 - the rest are just little convenience stores) and a great many places where no supermarket of any kind delivers. This is of course no help to people in Scotland wishing to register, but may perhaps explain why the website mentioned by OP apparently excludes Scotland.

Amymayapple · 26/03/2020 12:49

Scotland independence!!! You would be much happier.

TheSandman · 26/03/2020 12:50

I'm pro indy but this is neither the time nor place to be talking about it, all of our efforts right now should be going into fighting the virus.

Agreed. But afterwards the gloves are off.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 26/03/2020 12:51

My friends secondary aged DS hasn't been at school for over a week and still has absolutely no work issued, no online lessons, no communication at all.

My ds is due to start school in August. I got an email from the primary school with a list of resources and suggested activities to help him get ready so whilst that's bad, it is possibly an issue with the indivdual school.

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