Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

@ChloeDecker that is exactly what is being provided on Teams by our school Live online lessons , the normal timetable including tutor time , teacher talking to pupils pupils talking back etc

Sorry Chloe. I’m I bit sensitive to people suggesting that private school kids have it easy and I snapped at you.
FWIW- my son is dyslexic and has major problems with organisation. Jumping from one system to another is sending him into meltdown. And I’m not far behind him.

Oh how I wish our school had the funds to be able to do this. We don't have the resources to be able to deliver lessons - even though I'd love to be able to.

I am emailing parents and students most of the day answering questions.

Maybe look at how much the people you vote for invest in education - and more importantly right now the NHS.

Many many teachers have children- who are not at school.

Teachers in private schools are having to do this while also looking after their kids

my child is at a private school and it is nuts.

we have an online learning app/website - which has crashed and no longer functions.

we are now emailed a link to a google drive every evening with the work for the next day. the timetable is intense. 8-230.

there's a welcome video, a lesson plan for the day with registration, warm up exercises (this alone takes half an hour) and then each actual lesson has a number of videos to watch and then work to do.

child has to complete all of this each day and we have to submit work to teacher via email.

there's two languages that i don't speak, that we are supposed to teach.

we are trying to manage this whilst both holding down extremely intense and demanding full time jobs at home. i am typically on video calls 8 plus hours a day. i'm working harder than ever trying to prove my worth and keep my job.

incidentally in a team of 50, there's only two people with kids - i'm one of them and the other is a man. his wife doesn't work so she takes care of their child.

i have never had to work so hard and as if i didn't have a child.

the school is clearly piling on this insane amount of work and pressure to prove their worth and to justify the fees.

OP be careful what you wish for. i would love it if we had a more laid back, play-based approach. right now it is causing a huge amount of additional stress for us.

Are the teachers talking on a camera live to them, PeaseBlossom
If so, there will be a direct link between them. That’s what confused me about your post.

Many kids at our school don’t have access to a computer at home, they use the library ones normally to work. So they wouldn’t be able to access online lessons

Why can't state schools drop the slavish insistence on terms and just stop altogether until after Easter?

Because schools aren't really closed, they've been "repurposed" into childcare for the children of keyworkers. We have been told ours is to be open on weekends and over the Easter holidays and and school staff who express any reservations about this are flamed on other threads, told to "step up" and if you don't then you "don't care about the NHS". Staff who are in school on babysitting duties then have to go home and set work for students online, mark the work the comes back and field endless queries from parents. We also have a statutory responsibility to check on all the children who are on child protection and child in need plans so have to contact their parents and social workers by phone regularly (daily if child protection) and document that this has been done. It's not a short list, sadly. A member of staff was driving round town delivering food bank vouchers to vulnerable families yesterday after doing a full day in school. Many of us are combining all of the above with trying to care for our own small children whose settings are closed. And yet, people like OP still think state school staff are all enjoying a glorious extended holiday and demand more, more, more!
So yeah "just stopping altogether until after Easter" is not on the agenda, trust me.

The teacher i know well is putting online lessons up, is marking them

He sent emails to the parents of those who haven’t yet signed up to his lessons

He has received masses of emails from the children who generally seem very engaged

And he is going into school (on a rota) to be with keyworker children

Seems to be busy enough to me

Although...interestingly (well i think it is) the children who are virtually permanently sent out of various classrooms seem most engaged

They repeat the excercises til they get them all right, other children who struggle with a classroom environment are also doing all their work on time and even ahead of time

Its the children who do well in class that seem to be hesitant online

(And i know that technically its only day three...but some of the children started their work on Saturday)

Your poor DS tulipsrus. Very challenging yes. Would video learning by watching TED Talks similar to the material he has been set, help? Otherwise, I would scrap what he has been sent and use BBC Bitesize for KS3 and BBC Teach and he can cover all the National Curriculum there without having to mix between systems.
His Smartphone would be good for that and give you a bit of a break

I don't know where to begin. We have a very diverse school population, some of my year 6s have arrived this year speaking no English at all, some reside in a women's refuge, some are living well above the poverty line. Many do have computers, but those that do tend to have working parents who need access to the computer to keep working. A significant proportion have none, literally no way to access online teaching, no wifi no phone, no tablet. These children needed providing with pencils and paper in the 48 hours we had before we had to send them home.

What am I doing? Providing free childcare for key workers, putting multiple phone calls in to my significant number of vulnerable children who haven't turned up for 'school'. Planning lessons for a summer term that we may never get to teach, writing reports, online CPD and trying to manage the needs of my own family, and getting this response written before my directed time begins at 9am.

You clearly have access to a computer, and are articulate, you can spend this time with your children educating them in all manner of ways, beyond any worksheet that a teacher can provide. We will have to make up for lost time when we return to school, your child will not be behind if they have read every day, played in a garden, helped with cooking and/or online shopping, researched and presented a project about something that they are really interested in.

This is not a time for unhelpful comparisons - we are all doing our best parents and teachers. Can we not be kind?

A zoom chat with 32 people (state school class) is a disaster. A zoom chat with 20 (a private school class) is still hard but it could work better.
State schools have more pupils in their building atm because at risk children are still at school.
State schools can’t assume that everyone has a laptop of their own so they have to provide non-computer work.
If you want private school provision, pay for it!

The cameras are turned off so voice only, I think for the odd A level class they might be on. The school hosts teams on the school server. Child logs into their school account , teacher is logged on to their room on teams on school server . They are matched up , all lessons monitored and recorded.

I'm a primary school teacher. I'm on the rota for working the Easter holidays so I am on holiday this week. Still staying in contact with parents and other staff if needed. Young primary aged children would struggle to follow online teaching which is why they have been given a pack of activities for them to follow. Most of the families at my school have sahp so shouldn't be a problem. My husband is a secondary school teacher, very different approach with lessons online for students.

I’m a state school teacher. Not everyone at our school has access to laptops and iPads or parents who support and encourage. This makes converting normal face to face lessons into suitable alternatives very difficult.

In addition to this my own children’s nursery has closed, so although I am entitled to some childcare, I don’t actually have any. The thought of hosting a virtual chemistry lesson with my 4 and 2 year vying for my attention sounds impossible.

All our pupils from year three up have a school I pad
We are feeling if we don't provide an all singing all dancing provision that parents will begin to ask about fees.
Without fees the school will stop...STOP
We're not off..we are working even harder .Those staff at home are using technology they do not normally use trying to load on videos and lessons..we are ringing parents and children to offer advice and calm upset children down.
Some of us are providing stimulating child care for those key worker children from 7-30 to 6 if need be ..trust me it's not easy.

What you are asking for would cause huge problems for others. Who should schools cater for. Should they do what they think is right for most pupils in the 5 days they have had and then evolve this in time as they learn what works best for their pupils?

Hi. I do agree to an extent. I'm not normally an anxious person, but I'm waiting here with a knot in my stomach for today's work to be uploaded.
First, there will be the decimals that I don't understand. Then will come the other subjects, eg literacy, which thankfully play to my strengths.
My 10 year old isn't particularly academic, so will definitely require my help. That's totally fine, but I worry that I do too much for her.
I wouldn't say it's a particularly easy shift for the teacher. She had a firm (but kind) word with the children on day 2, asking them not to repeat all the same questions And she always replies to each child. Answers for the tasks are posted each day by 3pm - the work itself by 10am.
I'm impressed by how her school has handled everything, but have been surprised at how anxious I feel by it all. I'm a single parent, which probably doesn't help.
I don't think there is any need for private schools to provide a whole day's worth of work for their pupils. Not at this time. That smacks of keeping them occupied for the parents' sake, as opposed to being mindful of their mental wellbeing.

Guessing it wouldn’t work because a lot of state school kids won’t have access to a computer or tablet. Plus I imagine a lot of state school kids are treating this as an extended school holiday. You have no idea how deprived some children are in ways beyond finances.

My daughter's infant school have just given us a list of links similar to what's going round on social media. No packs, not even a single reading book. Pretty disappointed. I've bought lots of resources myself but that won't be the case for every child.

Private primary school (school closed as no family with 2 key workers) - at least 2 daily zoom lessons, loads of projects that kids can do by themselves, teachers accessible via mail (answer in minutes), loads of worksheets, mathletics stuff, squeebles recommendations. the 7 year old is busy (the 3 year old is a different story....)

@Tiggering our school does zoom assembly and zoom choir. both with well over 50 kids (assembly with about 250 log ins). works fine

I have two young children, one still a baby the other a toddler. My husband is still at work at the minute.

I am going into school two days a week. I have sent work home and I am contactable on our learning app.

I have an enormous list of "tasks" to get through also.

As an aside I teach early years, where children learn through play... how I can do that remotely I don't know!

I am beyond stressed and also exposing myself and my family to possible covid 19, my head sending more and more stuff to do daily and no childcare (I refuse to put my children into nursery so that I can get peace to work from home, if you do I think you are very selfish). I am not lazy, I've never worked so much in my life!

Private schools I suspect will also still br charging thousands of pounds a term...

These are unprecedented times and we are three days in... please give us a bloody chance. We are doing our best!

Many are also not well and are symptomatic and thus shouldn't be expected to work if they are poorly!

I'm curious to hear if anyone else has had as little from a school as I have? It is only an infant school but we just have links to twinkl, khan academy etc. No packs/books/tasks/videos. Nothing.

I am a secondary teacher who is working at least 6 hours per day setting work according to pupils' usual timetables. It's hard to set because I'm having to plan it in such a way as to make it challenging whilst accessible without me being there to help. It's much much easier planning lessons to deliver face to face. I'm also responding to emails from students and working on planning for September wherever I can. I'm also crunching data for various year groups and worrying about year 11 and what evidence the powers that be will request. I'll also be doing my shifts looking after the children of others in school- some of whom were probably out and about over the weekend whilst I was self isolating with my kids. Guess I'll have to take my chances that they didn't catch anything.
All of this whilst homeschooling my own two children. Oh yes. I'm having a ball OP.