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Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Namechangedforthisreply7 · 24/03/2020 23:14

Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

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Tonyaster · 25/03/2020 07:41

Why can't state schools drop the slavish insistence on terms and just stop altogether until after Easter? Dd has a month off school now anyway. I realise we are probably further ahead than state, but even so, the times are weird.

Namechangedforthisreply7 · 25/03/2020 07:48

Alkaloise you sound loud you’re working very hard. for those of us who havent even heard from our schools, let alone teachers, it’s difficult to believe they are doing this because there are no lessons (just sheets) no marking no communication. It’s like they’ve disappeared.

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TheGreatWave · 25/03/2020 07:49

sent a pencil home with each one too.

Just keep re-reading that, until you come up with the answer of why state schools can't do a full day online.

We do have two laptops as it happens, but I have one (you know work, needing to pay bills) the DC are then sharing dd1's.

Namechangedforthisreply7 · 25/03/2020 07:50

Safeguarding excuses for no live lessons - the Private school and many states by the sound of it aren’t shackled by ‘safeguarding’ - what exactly are the risks in a lesson run by a teacher in a private dial in setting?

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Tonyaster · 25/03/2020 07:51

Yes the safeguarding reason is so depressing.

Insaneinthemembury · 25/03/2020 07:53

I agree OP our school is a state school and we've been sent home with a sheet of paper! All of it falls to us.

mondaywine · 25/03/2020 07:54

This state school teacher is currently still in work, looking after key workers’ children. Can’t do both I’m afraid
Online learning is coming but funnily enough, as we don’t have the budget for glue sticks in school we also don’t have the technology freely available to get this up and running immediately

HasaDigaEebowai · 25/03/2020 07:55

Lots of private schools have high numbers of medic parents and so still have a fair number of students in. DSis's state school has 20 children in in total. My DC's independent has 24 in just from DS2's year group and that's replicated throughout the school.

lamppostdog · 25/03/2020 07:56

Oh a teacher bashing thread, how original Hmm

spicedemerald · 25/03/2020 07:56

I’m a state school teacher. I’m getting up at 5:00 to get 3 hours work in before I have to start looking after my own primary aged children (3 of them ranging from reception to Year 6). During the day I am trying to juggle being a mum, being their teacher and still maintaining contact with my own students whom I have set online work for. In the evening, when the kids are chilling out, I pick up where I left off and work for another couple of hours. I have to plan and set work on a daily basis and check in with my Head twice a day to update them on what I have done. In addition to this I am going into work on a rota basis to care for the children of key-workers, taking my own children with me as I am a single parent. I would love to know how you suggest I teach online lessons on top of doing all of this. I working more hours now than I do normally.

Yet another clueless entitled post from someone who clearly has no idea what actually goes on behind the scenes.

HugeAckmansWife · 25/03/2020 07:57

Because the teacher most likely doesn't have a quiet professional space a home, their kitchen table, with laundry, personal items, their own kids in and out will all be visible. It can be recorded, edited, dicked about with because that's what teenagers do. Some schools / teachers are comfortable with it but most are not. Plus, not all have the tech at home to do it. My webcam on my 8 year old lap top is broken and I can't use it generally through the day because my own kids are accessing their work. OP you have been given 7 pages of examples of why things vary from school to school and of teachers going above and beyond. Go away. Please.

DippyAvocado · 25/03/2020 07:57

All the teachers who are using Google classroom, had you been trained in this before? I've never used it and wondering if it's easy to get the hang of, both from a teacher and student point of view (my pupils are 6!).

I managed to send home big work packs in the last few days and have set some online and offline activities via the website but I am struggling to know what to do for our families who I know don't have a lot of internet access. From talking to them before, I know the only Internet access many have is their parent's phone, when they are allowed to use it. My pupils are young and will need support even with a video tutorial. A lot of them come from families with many siblings who will all need internet access. Most of them are unlikely to have a printer.

To be honest, I think paper packs are still going to be the easiest for some of my families so I will probably prepare more of those after Easter when they will have finished the ones I sent home. I will have to deliver them myself.

NichyNoo · 25/03/2020 07:58

My primary age children were sent home with logins to timestable rockstars, my maths and SPAG. They 9 year old has already completed the two tasks set on my maths and SPAG and nothing else has been set. (takes about 15 minutes to do each task). No way of knowing if the school will set more. My niece who lives in the next town and is at primary is having daily lessons set by the teachers who then marks them and sends messages back. Myself and other parents have resorted to ordering some maths workbooks so that we can give them something to do.

lamppostdog · 25/03/2020 07:59

Where do teachers put their own kids when they're doing these video link lessons ?

DippyAvocado · 25/03/2020 07:59

My webcam on my 8 year old lap top is broken and I can't use it

Good point. My teacher laptop doesn't have a working webcam. I would have to use my personal laptop, which my own kids are currently using most of the day to do their own school work.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 25/03/2020 08:00

Our reality at the moment... One DD (plus sibling!) sent home school last week due to coughing. So DH also sent home from work.

DH has to work from home. Keyworker. But they don't have enough work laptops, and you can't access the secure network from a normal one. So he answers emails and phone calls all day. Then has to go to work in the evenings, touching only his workstation, to do everything else.

We live rurally. Internet connection speed is rubbish- and it's showing in busy periods. Skype calls and similar keep cutting out. Since DH is using his, that leaves 1 laptop and a Kindle fire for two children to access online stuff. As much as I like the Kindle fire for kids, it's not really designed for anything serious. So online working isn't working for us currently.

Financially, we are comparatively well off for my DDs school- it has a high proportion of EAL and PP children.

I have workbooks and resources from when my children had no school places. I'm using them. I'm able to do this. My children are the lucky ones. I'd rather the school concentrated on the children who do need outside help.

Peaseblossom22 · 25/03/2020 08:02

Independent schools are of course bound by safeguarding. Ours are all being taught using teams and it’s all being hosted on the school server so there is no direct link between pupil and teacher it goes via the host . No cameras for obvious reasons unless the teacher wants to and is in school so it’s a classroom . School also open for key workers children

Italiandreams · 25/03/2020 08:02

Genuine questions- what form would you like the lessons to take? Would be great to hear from others too to get a consensus or not ... because there are lots of other threads complaining teachers are expecting far too much of children

Tonyaster · 25/03/2020 08:04

Where do teachers put their own kids when they're doing these video link lessons ?

No idea, and without sounding mean, it's not my problem to know! I think talking to dd that there are one or two teachers who aren't happy with it.

I think the teachers are going into school to record the lessons next term.

Popfan · 25/03/2020 08:05

My DS's school - secondary modern in a grammar school area is fantastic. Really well set up for tech already and all children have their own device. Using microsoft teams for virtual lessons and email. Absolutely great.

Peapod29 · 25/03/2020 08:06

Teachers are now providing ‘childcare’ for the nations key workers. They are doing all wrap around care as well. In our local schools they are in from 8 to 5 min. They will not have holidays this year. They can’t be expected to teach virtually and do marking as well because some parents CBA to home educate. I think it’s quiet amazing that we are having tasks and guidance uploaded at all.

Tonyaster · 25/03/2020 08:07

All children have their own device - i think this is key. Dds school specified that all kids had to have a Microsoft surface go or pro. But they are very expensive (although having them has been fab, super organised and they've whisked through work)

Sotiredofthislife · 25/03/2020 08:08

You might want to think about safeguarding from the teacher’s perspective. Our homes are private and so are our families - some of us may need personal safeguarding in relation to abusive ex’s just the same as our students in school. We too are home working around an unprecedented situation with concerns about family members, making sure we have food etc We don’t want memes and videos of ourselves posted online and we have absolutely no way to stop students recording or altering live streaming or videos in some way. And on top of that some of us are going to be affected by this pandemic just the same as you which means we may already be in hospital or trying to manage symptoms at home. And we are keyworkers ourselves which seems to have been forgotten.

And do remember from your position of superiority, thousands of already under privileged children have little or no internet access at all and why should they be disadvantaged further? Teachers will sort this once we are back in school. This time next year we will, fingers crossed, be pushing our current year 10 and 12s through exams like nothing has happened and despite losing around 1/5 of teaching time. My department is already discussing how to rework our schemes of work.

tulipsrus · 25/03/2020 08:11

My son,12, is in a private school and no he doesn’t have his own laptop. Why do people assume these things? They are set work via VLE, office 365? His school are supposedly available via email to answer questions. But I’ve seen snotty, very negative emails from teachers moaning about how many emails they’re getting. Tbh I’d rather they sent them home with some photocopied sheets.
I have friends who are teachers in state schools and they are still at school teaching key workers children and looked after children.

ChloeDecker · 25/03/2020 08:15

My son,12, is in a private school and no he doesn’t have his own laptop

Does he have his own Smartphone?

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