Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

Are you seriously criticising state schools and saying they should be providing the same as private schools?

State schools have had to stay open to look after certain children - I know many teachers still working - private schools don’t.

State schools have less resources and more pupils so may be unable to provide extra provision. They also also have to prioritise children with additional needs, children who aren’t going to be fed because they aren’t getting school meals and a myriad of social issues. As PP’s have said there is less access to online resources.

You aren’t comparing like with like.

Yes noble giraffe! I have conversed with you before about teaching under a different username.

We are literally either bombarding the poor things with too much work, or not setting it enough! Can't win!

When dds term starts she will basically have a full day with online video teaching and supervised prep sessions. They've had to train all the teachers to do this over the last few weeks. She's even expected to wear uniform. It's an expensive academic school with a lot of very well off families and so bears no resemblance to your average state school. Of course its going to be different. Funnily enough, I think the differences will be more marked online than they are in real life.

The stink of wilfully ignorant privilege from every word of your post is nauseating, op. You need to give your head a wobble and zoom out somewhat, maybe a smidgeon of perspective will then make itself apparent to you.

State schools have had to stay open to look after certain children - I know many teachers still working - private schools don’t.

The private school I work at is open for key worker children.

Nasty posts as usual from the private school hating brigade. Yawn.

Omg. Teachers a working their backsides off.

State schools have had to stay open to look after certain children - I know many teachers still working - private schools don’t

Private schools near us are not only open for key workers kids, but also for the teens who live abroad who couldn't get home.

Our state school teachers are sending work daily, everything that gets done and returned is commented on by teacher/ head. Quick answer from teachers when I asked to access resources kids don't use normally/ only use in school. I would say though you really need internet access, ideally a printer and a device for each child to work on. We have all that but I'm sure there are people who would prefer paper learning packs. Not really sure the schools can win here.

schafernaker We are on the free mymaths trial too! It was looking distinctly creaky the other day, I hope it doesn’t fall over!

Flamingo made a very valid point that they have sent a pencil in their home learning packs. We also sent a pencil, and some paper. A PENCIL, because the majority of the children won't have one of those.

We sent children of with a learning pack that won't be looked at, to homes that are not quite neglectful or abusive enough to hit the threshold for support. To families that can't afford to feed them, and don't know how to teach them, or just can't be arsed.

We took away a vital line of support from parents that are struggling, from children that are scared, and the most we could do was send a pencil home in their learning pack. A fucking pencil. These children don't have the resources or the support to learn from home. A fair majority of them struggled to learn in school, but at least we could provide a safe haven, a smile, a listening ear and a warm meal.

I really don't think there is any point trying to get your to understand how utterly stupid and privileged your post is. You have no idea what the teachers may or may not be doing, but I can assure you they will not be sat at home enjoying the break and thinking how lucky they are.

Tell me, how do you see that working for a Reception class? Keeping 30 children's attention is difficult enough when they're in the same room!

I'm not going to repeat the myriad of reasons other people have given you, but rest assured, this isn't a holiday.

I'm communicating with every parent, twice a day - setting work and responding to it. I'm phoning every family, every week, to see how they are and if they need support from anywhere else - food banks, for example. I'm writing reports, rewriting our curriculum, planning schemes of work and long term plans. I'm doing everything I can to make sure that when this ends we are ready and able to rebuild our school. Oh, and I'm going into school to care for key worker children.

My DD is in her final year at a private primary - all we've had is a pack of worksheets/workbooks and a promise of login details for some educational websites for after Easter.

I hear some of the parents are hassling the Head for online training etc, but it's a small school, a fair proportion of the staff are off or isolating and they're staying open for the children of key workers.

I really can't get worked up about it - there are much larger issues at play.

When did your kids school close and what year group are they? Mine closed on Friday and I have been working non-stop since then to edit, adapt and create lessons that are user friendly to get them up on a platform that I’ve never used before ( never has there been time or money for the cpd for it, so all self taught as I’m going along). I’ve had a massive admin job just to get the classes on the platform and then trying to upload everything whilst the platform keeps having issues due I suppose to how many people are using it. However my priority was my senior pupils who were initially told they’d be coming into school to complete assignments, so I’ve been back and forth with them and keeping up with all of the changes to that - it’s not happening now, we need to try and find evidence and sort through all of that for them too. I’ve spent hours and hours of my own free time to do all of this and only this morning was the work up because we all had to spend yesterday in school in meetings whilst our local authority decided on how the supervision of key worker pupils would work. Up until then we were being told we might be redeployed to do anything in the council that they needed from us! We also spent a week in a totally unsafe environment in crowded classes without adequate hand cleaning or sanitising facilities with teachers who were told they needed to isolate because of health conditions part of the week through meaning we’ve had lots of other staff to try and cover for and arrange their materials to be sent to them too!

The very fact that your school has managed to create a home learning pack whilst they all had your kids in would have been another additional work load at short notice, as we kept being told the schools would not be closing! Perhaps the private schools which pay their staff more and train their staff on how to use online learning with their smaller class sizes had already taken the decision that they would close and therefore had more notice to actually get sorted on what they were going to do.

I highly doubt that that the pack will be the only thing you get. My own children have their own packs and are now starting to be sent their online stuff- so it’s likely there will be more contact from your school once they are organised with what they will be able to do.

If I was just working my normal hours there is not a chance that I would have been able to get the work up and offer the help and support I have to the pupils I have. Keep in mind teachers may indeed be ill or have I’ll children to deal with, or have some terrible news, we’ve never had to prepare for a pandemic before! I think you’re going to have to be realistic here. There are many fantastic resources out there and it shouldn’t take much to keep your children busy and productive in the meantime- keep checking your child’s school’s app, Twitter and website.

Private schools as with state schools it depends entirely on the school.
Several round here have closed completely (I don't know about work setting as I don't know teachers or pupils there)

Some are open just for the children of keyworkers. and vulnerable.

I'm emailing work to all my pupils on a day by day basis. I can't do live teaching online though, mainly because a lot of my pupils don't have an individual internet capable device, they have to share them between the family. And quite a lot of them have quite patchy internet connections at home. So a worksheet with worked examples at the top that they can download when they can get access to the laptop is the best they can access.

I also don't have the software installed on my school laptop to be able to do any sort of live teaching, and don't have administrator access to be allowed to install it.

It's not teachers who are refusing to do it the way you want (in most cases), it's the technology available in the homes of the pupils. We have to work with what we know they have.

That probably isn't such an issue among private school families, where the WiFi is pretty quick and the children all have an individual device capable of running the software needed.

The private schools near me are not open - sorry - I made an assumption that they didn’t have to be as all our local state schools are.

Also, the fact that as a grown adult you need 'info' on how to do bus stop division is frankly worrying and a greater indictment of you than of the school.

We're fairly middle-class but we could not have provided the 4 computers needed for 2 children to be taking part in internet classes and 2 adults to work at home. In a state school in the kind of demographic where we live there will be children who aren't getting enough to eat, let alone getting access to expensive equipment.

Private schools have smaller teacher~pupil ratios.

Yes OP you are hugely, massively BU to think that private school provision at home can be done in state schools too.

You are not remotely comparing like with like. Although I suspect you know this anyway.

I'm afraid I don't recognise the OP's insight into private school provision. We were given a folder of twinkl handouts and about 15 books...nothing online provided (so far - but if they I can guarantee it won't be full day provision!). Currently debating what to do about fees and whether to withdraw...

Mine goes to state secondary.
Has online portal work to do.and send to teachers.
They have another website with extra resources.
One teacher is doing videos for the kids just like in a classroom.
The kids all have ipads through the Inspired Learning initiative in our area.

The teachers are working thier butts off with very little notice and i for one am very grateful for all thier hard work.

Oh - and zero feedback offered or requested regarding either handouts or books! I think we've been fobbed off at our private school...

There's some of our kids who's parents are extremely vulnerable, and the reality is that by the time they come back to school their mum or dad could well have died from covid19. So to be honest, what they are our are not learning doesn't really fucking matter, does it.