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Be Kind

28 replies

ChestyNut · 24/03/2020 13:38

AIBU to ask people to just think before they post personal attacks?

EVERYONE is scared and unsure.
NO ONE has every been in this situation before.

The world is a scary and sad enough place at the minute without us all attacking each other Sad

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thegreenlight · 24/03/2020 13:47

Like flippin z list slebs who are behaving in a horribly entitled and selfish way, gobbing off at NHS staff or anyone else who dares to question them on social media and then trotting out the whole ‘be kind’ bullshit when it suits them. If you want people to be kind to you, don’t behave like a twat. Simple.

n00bMaster69 · 24/03/2020 13:55

There is a pandemic, we've been given very clear instructions. People who don't follow those instructions are dickheads and/or incredibly stupid.

Sexnotgender · 24/03/2020 14:01

Can we just be clear though that robustly telling someone that actually, no your child can’t go to soft play isn’t a ‘personal attack’.

People are asking really bloody stupid questions and it’s frustrating.

ChestyNut · 24/03/2020 14:06

sex yes I agree about the stupid questions but I have seen personal attacks and there’s just no need.

I work in the NHS so am very aware there’s a pandemic.
I’m also scared/sad/frustrated but PAs aren’t going to make anything or myself feel better.

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WobblyAllOver · 24/03/2020 14:07

I agree this situation has been a good excuse for certain individuals to basically be really nasty and self righteous to everyone that doesn't agree with their viewpoint.

The nastiness has got so bad that even people doing things like getting a takeaway which is on the bloody list of approved things that remain open is met with the naysayers.

And as for wanting to report anyone seen leaving their house more than once in a day makes me sad that they will probably take up authorities times when actually many people will have a legitimate reason for doing so.

There must be a lot of people that actually enjoy being unkind Sad

JollyGiraffe12 · 24/03/2020 14:07

I think some people need telling tbh! I don’t condone rude personal attacks but I do think people need to be told when their actions/proposed actions are dangerous.

Reallynowdear · 24/03/2020 14:08

It isn't about being unkind.

It really is simple to watch, read or listen to the news, then follow the instructions the whole country has been given.

Of course we're all scared but if people deliberately ignore the government advice and put others in danger, why should they be shown kindness?

Thymelord · 24/03/2020 14:09

Honestly, no. Go and post your bloody hashtag be kind bollocks on the threads populated by idiots who think they are special, that their circumstances are special, their holiday is special, their dog is special blah blah fucking blah. Those who want validation from other idiots to break the rules.

Also, i'm afraid you can't disagree with my opinion because you need to #bekind.

JonHammIsMyJamm · 24/03/2020 14:11

Trouble is that this #bekind is actually gagging order and should be renamed #shutupunlessyouagreewithme. Most of the time people being admonished on social media for ‘not being kind’ are simply expressing a differing (and perfectly valid) point of view. Just because you don’t like it or you don’t agree doesn’t make it ‘unkind’.

elshajd · 24/03/2020 14:14

Of course we're all scared but if people deliberately ignore the government advice and put others in danger, why should they be shown kindness?

^ This several times over.

If you post that you are going out twice a day for exercise or are driving to your holiday home to stay there then I will be as nice to you as you deserve.

In other words, if you are intentionally choosing to put the lives of others at risk and deciding that what you want is more important than the lives of others then I will be as nice to you as you deserve - which is not at all.

handslikecowstits · 24/03/2020 14:16

Yes, there have been some unpleasant posts but it's also not very kind to put others at risk in the way that some have been doing/thinking of doing.

There seems to be quite a few who still aren't getting the message and somehow believe that they're exempt in some way.

Sizeablecontours · 24/03/2020 14:20

It's not about a hashtag. It's about meeting people where they are at. People are anxious, stressed and uncertain. Its perfectly possible to answer straightforward queries with straightforward answers, without being insulting or sarcastic.

It's the people who don't bother to ask on sm about whether or not they should be doing something dodgy, who just go ahead and do it anyway without a thought to others they may be putting at risk, who are more of a worry tbh.

EatDessertFirst · 24/03/2020 14:20

I will #bekind Hmm when idiots stop disobeying the rules like they are fucking special. Our entire nations DC aren't at school, millions of people cannot go to work, businesses closed and families shut inside because people feel the need to make unnecessary trips. The UK is embarrassing. If other European countries can do it, so should we. I took my DC out for their ONE walk today and saw at least 3 elderly couples walking around. IF YOU ARE OVER 70, STAY INSIDE. This is just an example before anyone starts screaming ageism.

The instructions are clear and all over the news and social media.

elshajd · 24/03/2020 14:23

It really annoys me.
We have plans to leave the house in the next few days for these reasons:

In our garden:

  1. Weeding the garden (it needs it)
  2. Mowing the lawn
  3. Tidying up and emptying the compost bin as it's ready to be used on the garden.
  4. Once a day walk for the dog - one person - and at dawn so it's done when it's quietest. Avoiding our usual popular walking spot. Dog will stay on the lead if necessary to avoid inadvertant contact with others.
  5. One food shop for an elderly relative. Drop and run and not see them.

and that's it apart from any frontline shifts.

I don't see the need for anything other than the above.

xtinak · 24/03/2020 14:26

I also agree that there is a need to be kind. People will definitely do the wrong thing, but then people do the "wrong" thing all the time, like smoking etc. I also don't know what makes people think the same issues aren't arising in other countries. I think because people are scared it's easy to lash out and just deem people as a twat, idiot, because it's the easiest way to deal with it in your mind. Realities are more complex. It feels like Brexit on steroids.

Glowcat · 24/03/2020 14:32

I haven’t seen anything saying that over 70s can’t go for one walk a day. Has anyone else?

Sexnotgender · 24/03/2020 14:34

I was under the impression that the vulnerable groups were to be totally isolated, that included the over 70s.

I have a teenager in a vulnerable group and she’s under lock and key!

Glowcat · 24/03/2020 14:39

If anyone can find it in writing I’d appreciate it. I’d like to show it to my (over70s) parents.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 24/03/2020 14:42

It isn't kind to be spreading deadly virus🤷🏻

ChestyNut · 24/03/2020 15:04

My post wasn’t about any # just being kind.
Some of the posts on this thread demonstrate my point.

Thyme don’t be facetious. You can disagree just don’t be awful in the way you disagree.

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emilybrontescorsett · 24/03/2020 15:12

I'm sorry but no.
It has got to the point where I'm being blunt with people.
Being kind is not taking 12 bottles of hand sanitizer or stealing it from the hospital. Being kind is not standing close to others or putting others at risk.
Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.

WobblyAllOver · 24/03/2020 15:14

Glowcat yes over 70s can still go for a walk.

Even on one of the Q&A section of the daily PM briefings they used an example of a generally fit over 70s going for a 30 min walk outside can still be beneficial weighing up the risks. They should just avoid other people and maintain social distancing etc.

Glowcat · 24/03/2020 15:23

Thanks. I walk the dog daily and yesterday everyone (apart from one group) seemed to be being sensible and keeping their distance.

Whoareyoudududu · 24/03/2020 15:26

I hate the be kind bullshit so much. So patronising and twee.

puds11 · 24/03/2020 15:28

It’s hard to be kind to the 200th poster who asks if it’s ok for them to go on two walks a day!

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