To wonder why it takes an international crisis to ensure proper cleaning is carried out?

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Watching the news reports about stepping up cleaning on the tube, public transport and public areas in general.

Can't help thinking this should be done anyway as a matter of course? Maybe proper cleaning would avoid all sorts of bugs being spread so quickly.

Do you think this will be a wake up call or will we go back to skanky ways once CV is over?

Washing hands properly and frequently has always been the most important health education message. In the short term things will definitely improve. I hope that'll continue but have my doubts.

Yeah, I’m fairly surprised people have had to be informed how to wash hands and not to sneeze or cough into their hands. It should just be common knowledge.

At the same time we do need to be exposed to some germs as its good for the immune system.

I am from an EU country and am in general quite surprised at how dirty public buildings, public transportation, and private offices are in the UK. There just seems to be a layer of grime over the surfaces. It is very obvious that most of the cleaners in those buildings neither vacuums under furniture nor in particularly near to the wall.

We have a cleaner in our office who had to find out the hard way, when we complained to her supervisor, that it was actually quite obvious when she didn't wash the floors but only put out the warning cones. She didn't think we'd notice. We only get things dusted when the cleaner we normally have is off from work. Even though we have a cleaner every day, in theory, we have two deep cleaning days a year, when all of us in the office clean. Otherwise, many things would never ever get cleaned. Mind you, most of us are foreigners and not willing to put up with the "standard" grime.

On the flip side I'm sick of everywhere smelling of cleaning alcohol and making me gag. I left my lovely vanilla smelling room this morning to be greeted by a bathroom doused in dettol that smelt of disinfectant. Wherever you go the smell is everywhere. It's vile. Why can't people at least use nicely fragranced stuff eg dettol pomegranate and similar

Some people will go back to their dirty ways that’s even if they’re cleaning properly now,

Look at all the posts on here the should I go on an airplane when my child has chicken pox / had d/v for the last 2 days

I'm hoping MRSA will be drastically reduced in hospitals post cv

It's not usually the cleaner's fault. It's the companies that employ them and the companies that buy in their services.

We have a lovely cleaner at our office. She works a 14 hour day in 2 jobs for minimum wage. At our office, she just doesn't have the time to do all the work they want her to do. That's even before taking into account all the stuff that isn't her job but that she has to do before she can start her actual work such as emptying people's cups and stacking the dishwasher so that she can get to the kitchen surfaces to wipe them. We've actually got some filthy bastard wiping bogies all over the toilet walls which is disgusting at the best of times and utterly disgraceful in the current situation. I work late so I can see how hard she works. Regardless, the cleaner's employers regularly shout at her and threaten to dock her pay. They get away with it because she isn't from this country and has limited English.

My parents cleaned in a school for years and faced exactly the same situation with the only difference being they were more aware of their rights.

@Fimofriend same at unies! I get that cleaner is not the most pleasant job, but man. 30 seconds of hoover and nothing else will not make the room clean. It was disgusting by the end of first semester. I've been carrying high alcohol hand gel ever since that time. It was also when i realised how many people don't wash hands in toilets🤢

It depends - I work in a supermarket and we fully close 2 days of the year - Christmas Day and Easter Sunday - and are open 6am to midnight. Between midnight and 6am our night staff are restocking the shelves. When exactly would you like deep cleans to be done?

We have a cleaning company who work every day to keep the store clean but they can only do so much.

With the reduction in the number of customers coming in, and products on shelves, it is giving us more time to actually allow staff to deep clean areas that we dont usually have chance to get to on a more regular basis.

I agree but think organisations will go back to original ways.