Double buggies and buses

[SleepingStandingUp]

I don't get it. Why can't a double buggy and a sine buggy be on the bus together assuming both safely fit on?

Now before the comment is made, yes of course the parent in the wheelchair user space is goin to move immediately if a person I na wheelchair is getting on. No fuss or discussion, they'll just automatically get off.

So with that stipulated, why won't drivers let in a 2nd push jsit if I'm in with my double, or vice versa?

I've seen two singles squeezed in either side when passengers have decided to stand in the other space and no one bat's an eyelid so what difference does it make?

Some double buggies are no bigger than a big pram anyway and no one says we're oy allowed X cubic feet of baby carriage.

My double is long but fits snuggly into the buggy space, and there's far more obstruction with 3 of those box trolleys in the aisle

So Aibu to think drivers are just being ridiculous?

Well surely this is something to take up with the bus company?

When I had my twins my husband used the Arriva bus daily to take them to nursery. Never any issues. Stagecoach didn’t like it but allowed it the time I had no other way to get to school to collect another child - but that was a side by side buggy. I got my tandem after that.

Now before the comment is made, yes of course the parent in the wheelchair user space is goin to move immediately if a person I na wheelchair is getting on. No fuss or discussion, they'll just automatically get off.

what country are you in, OP ?

My bus company does allow this provided that the handles and anything else like shopping bags don't stick out into the isle.

Also, if the single buggy boarded the bus first it relies on that person being willing to turn their buggy round and potentially not sit next to it. Sometimes the parent refuses to move and the driver won't intervene. Other times the driver will tell the single buggy person to move round and they have no choice.

People get really bitchy over buggy spaces on my buses!

Now before the comment is made, yes of course the parent in the wheelchair user space is goin to move immediately if a person I na wheelchair is getting on. No fuss or discussion, they'll just automatically

And the bus driver knows that how?

On my buses there's a sign that says buggy users must move (fold the buggy up and take a seat or get off) for a wheelchair user.

My local buses allow them on provided you can get them on and off easily, if you can't them on easily then you can't them off easily if there is a crash or fire, tbh I agree with them.

BiscuitBarrels sorry I meant for the purposes of the thread before someone comes in to tell me I'm an entitled disablist idiot and I shouldn't be allowed in a bus with an open buggy.

But also the driver would allow two singles without asking and the same argument applies. And when the driver said "what if a handicapped person needs to get on?" I said "well the same as if you had two singles. If a person in a wheelchair gets on, I'd get off!"

TerrorWig maybe but I wanted a moan and thought maybe someone knew the logic

DGRossetti England

Pilot12 the single buggy was in the wheelchair user space, didn't need to move although she did kindly offer and was ae to stay sitting with her buggy. The man offered me a seat where he was bus I couldn't see the babies from there so I stood. Our buses say the same Re moving or folding the which is why I mentioned it in the op cos someone is bound to come on and tell me open buggies should be banned cos we're all selfish dicks who take pleasure in screwing over the rights of peoe using wheelchairs.

DimplesToadfoot fair enough but this was an empty bus with loads of room.

DGRossetti England

Not an England DWs MS support group would recognise. None of them has had a parent get off a bus for them. It's very much a case of hoping the next bus does have a wheelchair space.

Probably because a lot of bus drivers are miserable, jobsworths.

@SleepingStandingUp you can’t just have a moan on AIBU!

Call and speak to the company. Sometimes the drivers take the instructions a bit too literally.

Today has been a shitty bus day, Aibu to think its my own adult for not driving? Reckon that's better Terror? 😂😂😂
3 buses went past us, only got on 4th cos lady got off a stop early! And yes I know the reality daily for people in a wheelchair but I MOVE so

They generally allow this in London so I don’t know where you are. However once I was told I wasn’t allowed on even though there was on One buggy on, a tandem and there was clearly space.

Midlands pumpkin

I'm sitting on the fence here. I use Arriva in Hertfordshire and the drivers do what they can but don't intervene between buggy/shopping trolley disputes - they just turn the engine off. I've seen them turn away buggies if there are already 2 on board (as the bus is hourly I felt so sorry for them) and I've also had one remove a woman with a buggy who wouldn't get off for a wheelchair user. As it was, the bus was so badly designed that the bloke couldn't get his chair round the tight bend at front of bus so they both lost out. I think drivers like an easy life - sometimes this translates into not letting another buggy on in the first place. Years ago a buggy was something that you took the baby out of and folded up (a stripey Mclaren) and then you all just sat in a regular seat. Nowadays buggies are massive with shopping bags etc hanging off them - not a good idea for bus travel really.

Two twelve week old babies in my arms in a badly driven bust on a busy route is a far worse idea.

They should defend the right of wheelchair users more. I've had drivers tell people no whilst we've been physically reconfiguring the Passengers to get him on and have had to tell he driver to let the wheelchair user on

Where I live Arriva have one space marked wheelchair and another marked pushchair. I have fit my pushchair next to a wheelchair more than once without issue. I have also fit my pushchair next to a double pushchair without issue.

I had a double pushchair years ago with my older DC and I do remember First buses telling me I couldn’t get on because a single was already on. I had a tandem pushchair so I didn’t understand the rule at all, it doesn’t make sense.

I’ve never come across this. My double buggy squeezing into the wheelchair spot (obviously I would get off the bus immediately if someone needed to use it) and often a single buggy gets on and goes behind. The idea of holding a baby and managing a toddler on a bus while folding a double buggy, taking all the shopping out of the basket etc fills me with horror. Would much rather get off and wait for the next bus if I have to.

Glad to see I'd just some of our drivers then. I should add some of them are more flexible and allow the slave to be used sensibly. Just slightly peeved after waiting for 4 buses with the three kids when there was adequate space

I never had a problem with this. If there was no wheelchair user needing the space then I had my double on with someone else's single enty of times. I think you've been unlucky.

Where I live the bus company got so fed up of rows over spaces that buggies are only allowed in the pram space. To the point a woman had to fold her pram the other day as there was another buggy even though there was Buggy1 Mum and child, me and my 2 youngest and Buggy2 mum and child on the bus

Sometimes it’s just easier for them to have a set rule and stick to it

Ironically the argument tends to be bus Mom's saying let the other amom on, well move and fit. We have a high birth rate here, most of us get it Amroth of course there are those who get their kids out, leave the pushchair up and go upstairs