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What would be your ideal Earth?

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angell84 · 07/03/2020 12:57

The older I get, the more I see that the way Earth is right now: is just because other humans have decided it is to be this way. Humans at the top that are selfish, and who are making it difficult for everyone else. The Earth could actually be much more improved, and easier for everyone.

It is fun to imagine:

In my ideal Earth,
There would not be governments as we have them now, there would be a central processing office, that gives every human in the country - the basic items that they need every week.l to survive

There would be no government - where a small amount of people, rule over, and make decisions for the rest of the country. Every human would be as important as each other, and have a say.

No one would be forced to work. There would be a basic income given out to everyone, and then people can work on top of that if they want to, they could also just do hobbies, fun things, more freedom to do whatever they want.

That Earth could easily exist as the one we have now.

What would be your ideal Earth?

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onionface · 07/03/2020 14:04

No one would be forced to work. There would be a basic income given out to everyone, and then people can work on top of that if they want to

Also, where is the money coming from to pay for the basic income?
People have to work to pay taxes to fund this. Under your system the economy wouldn't just tank, it wouldn't exist. There would be no money. We'd be back to growing our own turnips and bartering them in exchange for oats.

Hmmmm88 · 07/03/2020 14:15

Much less people and more animals

thecatsthecats · 07/03/2020 14:22

Much smaller populations. Most occupied in hunter gathering and direct production of what is needed. A small number of healers dealing with herblore.

I'm afraid there's not much intervention in serious illness in my world, but because of the way people live, disease is a bit different - much less modern and social diseases, far healthier lifestyles, and fair and gentle care of the disabled who can live naturally. Pain relief and euthanasia more of a priority for serious cases.

(I'm not much of a believer in the expansion of the human race, you see. Much rather we sat around being creatively fulfilled and dying without leaving a mark upon the earth.)

SciFiScream · 07/03/2020 14:36

Ideal Earth? Maybe the world of Star Trek the Next Generation. Money doesn't exist anymore, no one is hungry. Everyone is educated.

Fewer humans

No environmental disasters

The pursuit of knowledge

Space travel.

Gronky · 07/03/2020 14:44

I would ask of the agrarian lifestyle proponents, what's stopping you doing this right now? There's a surprising amount of cheap farmland in Britain for as little as (and, in some cases, less than) £10k an acre.

NotTheMrMenAgain · 07/03/2020 15:08

OP, living off the land would not be 'fun'. It would be bloody long hours of hard, physical labour in all weathers - and no guarantee of success.

And what on Earth are you talking about when you say people in the past didn't work as much as we do now (9-5?). Apart from the wealthy, people would work all hours just to keep mouths fed and the wolf from the door. You know that children as young as 5 years old worked 12 hour shifts (or longer) in dangerous factories and mills? So they didn't starve? 9-5 is a piece of piss compared to what most poor folk historically endured!

ErrolTheDragon · 07/03/2020 17:01

Ideal Earth? Maybe the world of Star Trek the Next Generation. Money doesn't exist anymore, no one is hungry. Everyone is educated.

That'd be nice... though ideally all the other warp-capable life forms would be of similar pacifist, non colonial ilk too. And I'd want to get to that state without a eugenics war, Khan etc, and no rogue androids. Not much to ask...

Alternatively, Lennon covered the most important bases in Imagine.

Igglepigglesgrubbyblanket · 07/03/2020 19:02

I don't fancy being a farmer. I'm just reading doughnut economics, feels like it might have some answers.

DjMomo · 07/03/2020 21:41

Living off the land..no way! When mother nature decides to surprise you with locusts, drought, frost or whatever that damages your crops and your family goes hungry and broke for months or a whole year, all you’ll want to be is an office worker.

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