AIBU to think more people steal than we think?

[Garfy0505]

I run an online business and around 2-3% of my orders I get messages from customers saying thier items have not arrived. Most of them do not realise I can track the item and use the GPS to determine the house it was delivered to. I politely suggest they've contacted me by mistake and 99% of these then either miraculously find it or I never hear from them again. There's whole pages on facebook for people to advise them how to get items for free from online companies, what is wrong with people? I wonder now if for every 100 people I come across 2-3 of them are secret thieves! Please if you ever think of doing this, remember there's often a small business behind the website that you're hurting, rant over!

Even the staff are on the take. Woman I used to work with would swan in work for an hour then put down shed worked for 4 hours. Nobody gives a shit and noone has any morals any more.

Even the staff are on the take. Woman I used to work with would swan in work for an hour then put down shed worked for 4 hours. Nobody gives a shit and noone has any morals any more.

Nothing new there. Just the same back in the 80s when I started work. We had a couple of guys who'd been there so long they were part of the woodwork, who'd blatantly read the paper or read books if the boss wasn't about.

I also remember a neighbour telling me about her new job in a shop. Another shop assistant was tasked with training her up and one of the first things she taught her was how to fiddle the till.

I meant what kahawara described, exactly that sort of thing.

A friend of mine had a summer job while she was in uni, working in a corner shop. They had cameras pointed on the till and her colleagues told her the camera was to deter the shop staff from stealing and not in case thieves snatched money!
She regularly saw her colleague giving change from twenty instead of change from ten to her friends who went into the shop. I still don’t know how this didn’t show up in the balance at the end of the day but she said it happened very regularly.

Omg I was once Christmas shopping with baby in the pram... hung a few things on the pram handle and popped some shoes in the basket... paid for my shopping then met DH for a coffee... I then showed him what I'd purchased..and suddenly remembered the shoes! Still in the pram basket!

I rushed back to next and explained what happened and paid.

Several times actually I've had to pop back as toddlers in the pram have been clutching something or other!

YANBU I love this country and will never willingly leave but one of the fews things I despise is how many thieves we have. I go to other countries and see stuff lying around that would be stolen in an instant if left anywhere here.

There are a lot of cowboy tradespeople out there that do damage houses when they are there. I’ve had an awful time recently with some myself. They came and quoted for jobs they weren’t capable of carrying out. On top of paying them
£££, I had to spend the same rectifying their inferior work and replacing what they had damaged.

Therearea lot of cowboy tradespeople out there thatdodamage houses when they are there. I’ve had an awful time recently with some myself. They came and quoted for jobs they weren’t capable of carrying out. On top of paying them
£££, I had to spend the same rectifying their inferior work and replacing what they had damaged.

What's that got to do with the thread?

We arent talking about people making legitimate claims.

Odd how people are so defenisive and keep jumping in with 'yeah but...'

I am sure lots of people do steal, but I am honest to a fault and would not even think to do something like that!
I have had the odd amazon order never arrive, and been issued with a refund from the seller. I really hope the sellers did not think I was tiring it on. I think it is only 3 items in my whole Amazon history so hope they realise I do not steal.
However, my local Facebook page is full of people searching for their "deliveries" or never getting them. The latest one it was apparently left in their bin, which because they were away for the weekend, had been emptied with the parcel in it by the time they got home!

I once had the same item get partially stolen by someone in the delivery chain twice. The ripped open package was stuffed though my letterbox (no attempt to knock). The seller sent me a really angry message back each time, he clearly thought I was trying it on.

I've also had a higher value package allegedly be delivered to the neighbour on side of me (according to the notifcation e-mail). Despite me being home and sat a couple of feet from the door when delivery was apparently attempted. Immediately tried the neighbour who didn't have it. Tried the neighbour the other side, no answer and no car on the driveway, so assumed they were out and therefore didn't have it. Weeks later I spotted this item (it was pretty disticntive) in the second neighbour's shed whilst I was making some repairs to my own. I queried it with them and they tried to tell me it was delivered to them with no address on the label (not even a return to sender) so they didn't know it was mine!

She regularly saw her colleague giving change from twenty instead of change from ten to her friends who went into the shop. I still don’t know how this didn’t show up in the balance at the end of the day but she said it happened very regularly.

Some shop owners are just plain shoddy when it comes to their record keeping etc. I've got a client who has a convenience store - half a million turnover, but he doesn't check anything. There are loads of "voids" and "refunds" on the till, but he never even looks at the till rolls to check what happened. He doesn't even count the cash to check against the end of day till report. He's just a lazy sod really and assumes people are honest - stupid & lazy. I give him reports of voids, refunds and till discrepancies every quarter - usually a few thousand pounds, but he doesn't seem to care. What more can you do?

YANBU I love this country and will never willingly leave but one of the fews things I despise is how many thieves we have. I go to other countries and see stuff lying around that would be stolen in an instant if left anywhere here.

Yet other countries have far higher incidences of crime, such as pick-pocketing etc. Perhaps our "thieves" don't think they are, i.e. stealing a few pens from work, taking in someone else's parcel etc - "it's not really theft is it" mentality. Whereas at least a rogue trader or pickpocket or shoplifter is in no doubt they're a criminal!

'Whereas at least a rogue trader or pickpocket or shoplifter is in no doubt they're a criminal!' You'd be surprised. I've caught a fair few shop lifters in my time. Several teenagers who I've banned from the store only for the parents to get shitty with me and not believe little Johnny could ever do such a thing and little Johnny insisting he didn't do it, despite their being several witnesses saying otherwise. On one occassion I got called a 'child abuser' by a parent on my business's social media page as I'd explained to her son that he needed to return an item he'd stolen from another child or the other child's parent would be contacting the Police. Even caught an older man attempt to really badly stuff a large item under his jacket I threw him out and when he tried to return a couple of weeks later he maintained he was just and old man and not a thief! He was a treasure, especially when he got really aggressive and spat at me.

DH ordered an expensive telescope thingy a few months back, tracked it in the Amazon map, we were the next stop... white van pulls up in front of the house waits a minute and drives off. Next thing his phone is beeping with the "your item has been delivered" notification. He got straight into customer services who just said "oh yeah, that happens a lot and refunded him!"

I worked in a bank back in the 70's and there one person at every branch I worked who was prosecuted for theft. One of them I knew really well. She went to prison too. Later on I worked at an IT company and we had to have undercover security working in the warehouse because so much was going missing but they always got caught. Eventually the warehouse function was pretty much automated. Last company I worked for had airport style security. You had to put your keys and such in a tray to go through the scanners and bags were opened and searched.

What's that got to do with the thread?

Quoting and doing shoddy work is the same as stealing office stationery pens but on a much bigger scale. It’s the same mentality - some people think it isn’t stealing unless an object is shoplifted.

Another shop assistant was tasked with training her up and one of the first things she taught her was how to fiddle the till

And yet on here that would often invite countless "don't sneak" comments - usually with a garnish of how desperate she must be, how it's the Tories' fault for keeping her short of money and how it's none the OP's business anyway

And then we wonder why so many thieves consider themselves untouchable

...and there was always one person at every branch