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To think that I should have requested a salary negotiation ?

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Username109876 · 28/02/2020 21:10

I have been working for 2 months in a role, which I enjoy. One of the colleagues has left and I have been asked to do her role on a 6-month basis.
I said I was happy to do this role, however it has much more responsibility, and pays £8,000 a year more than my role.

I think it would be unfair if I were expected to do this role for 6 months whilst still being paid at the rate for my old role, and so I have requested a salary negotiation.

Do you think I was right to ask ? Would you accept to do the new job on the old salary ?

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BabySnark · 02/03/2020 19:21

I think they are incredibly unreasonable. They may say you will not be doing the full role of a teacher but actually you will be and already are. I think you stated you are a qualified teacher and if they want you to do this cover they should pay you as such. As teachers we devalue our profession by doing so much work for free and not speaking up for ourselves! My advice would be: don't be a martyr to the job. If they are not willing to give you additional pay, decline the role and do not be a doormat.

mrsm43s · 02/03/2020 19:46

Now normally I would say that you would expect an acting up allowance, however, I think the fact that your role is a cover supervisor somewhat changes things.

Your job as a cover supervisor is to cover for teachers, at a lower cost than hiring a supply teacher, correct? And you don't have to be a qualified teacher to be a cover supervisor. The fact you are is somewhat irrelevant, as you applied for a job where it wasn't required and that paid a lower salary.

They don't wan't to employ a supply teacher at greater cost to cover the class. They want to employ a cover supervisor being paid a cover supervisor rate. The fact that you are a qualified teacher is neither here not there, as they haven't hired you as a teacher and don't want to pay for a teacher - they only want a cover supervisor.

I don't particularly agree with the cover supervisor role tbh, and I think that it would be better if it wasn't an option. But that said, they have employed you only as a cover supervisor, and only want to pay you that rate. If you decline to do the job, they will hire another cover supervisor, not get a supply in. Don't do a full class teacher role, do the cover supervisor role only. That is what you were employed to do, and what you are being paid to do. That said, if you are new to/returning to teaching, then the experience might be worthwhile having.

roseapothecary · 02/03/2020 19:52

What subject are you? I wouldn't accept seeing it as useful experience as some PP are saying. Be clear that you will not be planning or marking and stick to it.
I used to do supply, and so many schools would have me as a cover supervisor on half pay, then expect me to be teaching lessons and helping with some marking/planning. I started turning down work with those schools, one of which that then came back and asked me on long term supply as a teacher. It is a tough job, dont undersell yourself.

ElderAve · 02/03/2020 19:59

Why aren't you working as a teacher and will you ever want to go back to it? The fact that you've stepped down will raise some eyebrows, so being able to show that it was a temporary thing and you grasped the opportunity to teach again will be worthwhile experience should you be applying for teaching posts in the near future.

Username109876 · 02/03/2020 20:24

It's MFL.
I qualified a few years ago but have worked abroad and done different things since, and have not completed my NQT year.

The problem is that I literally told them twice that nobody else is settling cover work so i'm settling it. Even when I wasn't the long-term cover, I was setting cover work as I didn't want the supply teachers to come in and have nothing !
However the school are aware yet are doing nothing.
Cover Supervisors are only supposed to cover short-term absence, however the lines are blurred in many cases.

I've always allowed myself to be taken advantage of, whether that's in the workplace or in relationships, and that's my fault.

I am sat here wondering why on earth l am working for less than £17k a year (18.5k including my extra tutoring work) when I am experienced, postgraduate level.

I know 18.5k is respectable but I think majority of friends and peers my age are on over £25k now and can afford a lot more, whereas I live quite a basic life. It's not about money I know, but I always sell myself short.

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monkeysox · 02/03/2020 20:54

They are absolutely taking the piss.
Mfl teachers are rare.
Get them to let you complete your nqt and pay you appropriately or find somewhere that will.

Username109876 · 02/03/2020 21:00

They interviewed 2 weeks ago for a full-time MFL teacher but I was not chosen. I don't think they are going to change their mind re the salary. I left my old job which was lovely, simply because my manager was a bully who picked on myself and 2 others.

I don't want to get a 'job hopper' reputation which may harm my prospects. I do enjoy the actual work and the people but I feel that this is unfair. Just been looking on indeed.co.uk, tons of jobs out there with better salaries and similar hours, it's tempting to apply. Don't want the kids to be let down again though as their old teacher just left and didn't come back.

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Allmyfavouritepeople · 02/03/2020 23:08

I would not do it OP.
You can go on supply and get a new role by tomorrow. If they wanted to hire you as a teacher they should have done it two weeks ago. They think you will do the job for peanuts.
Don't worry about not being well thought of as a 'job hopper'or 'teacher who stood down'. They don't think much of you now or else they'd pay you what you're worth. It's not you letting the children down, it's the school by exploiting members of staff.
Do not do a teachers job for a cover supervisor salary. Do doctors work for a nurses salary? No.

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