To think male philogynists do exist

[Alanis126]

By which I mean men who genuinely admire love and respect women in general (not just those they fancy). I think I've met one at least in my life. You?

Eh? That would be all the men I know bar literally one or two??

Tbh, I was going to suggest asking MNHQ to move this to the Sex topic. Disappointing.

It no more has to do with sex than the opposite misogyny. I really think that'd be a strange request

I've met men who genuinely admire, respect etc particular women, and they're usually not misogynistic.

But I've also met men who claim to love all women, and they're generally wankers.

No, I know men who 'genuinely admire love and respect ' some women (regardless of whether they fancy them) and treat women in general in the same way as men in general. You know, like they're all humans.

It sounded more fun than it turned out to be.

Latin and Greek not strong points.

But this is not realistic.. no person will like ALL other people, and anyone telling you so is a liar! There is a marked difference between approaching all human beings equally, and liking and respecting them all. And quite rightly.

I would say most men, and women, I encounter are able to approach people openly.. perhaps reflect on your social circle and what you may be letting slide without challenge. We all need to be the change we want to see in the world.

But I've also met men who claim to love all women, and they're generally wankers.

Spot on.

I’d like to hope that all women aren’t misandrists but I get this thread proves we can’t have everything we want, hey OP?

No misandry, I'm a pround misanthrope. Equal Opps, and all that.

I haven't ever met a man who "claimed" to love all women, but I've only met a couple over the years who genuinely LOVE WOMAN. (Not just, like to fuck them.) They are the best!!! Not as rare as a unicorn but rare. When you meet one, you'll know it. : )

Love WOMEN not woman....

Who would love all women?

I don’t, and I am one.

It sounds like ‘men from mars women are from venous’ nonsense which assumes women to have positive traits such as an ability to nurture whilst denying us the full gamut of personality.

I’d find a man who said he loved women in general to be quite creepy.

Yeah, wankers.

I don't think the term you attempt to coin in the thread title is a true opposite to misogyny.

many misogynists would reject the term of themselves claiming that they deeply love and respect womankind in general but peel back the layers of the onion and you find sexist ideas of what a woman is or can be.

the opposite of misogyny is not philogyny but rather an attitude which perceives and acts almost completely chromosome-neutrally : expecting and providing for all with the same respect for full humanity for all, but modulated with an understanding that the privilege of maleness in the patriarchy nevertheless needs redress and sometimes treating women exactly the same as men is still misogynistic if the default human is Male.

You can like everyone. I don’t like all women. I found this out when I joined Mumsnet.

Very sexist to caim to love woman.

My mother proudly claims that all "homosexual lads are lovely"
She doesn't realise that her clumsy attempt to be seen to " like the gays" is homophobic.

Women are people, and are not defined as a sub species - some will be admirable people, some will be assholes.

Some men are arseholes, some are not. Same as with women really. HTH.

I don't think I've met many women who love, admire and respect men in general.

I thought it was going to be stamp collecting

I think automatically loving, or thinking someone is great just because they’re a woman is a bit weird really. Same with men. I assess people on an individual basis.

Even I, a woman, think some women are horrible. Who would love all wome? Who would love all men, come to that? God? Someone starting a new religion? The Pope? (Even he gets grumpy with some women, as seen on camera)

Men who say they love and admire women are often (a) wankers or (b) referring to a idealised, constricting notion of womanhood.

Men who don't make proclamations but quietly get on and show through their actions they value and appreciate women, and understand as far as possible the difficult world women uniquely navigate, are my favourite kind of men.