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To think corner shops with Post Offices resent Post Office customers

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GivenchyDahhling · 26/02/2020 21:58

Whilst on maternity leave I’ve been selling a lot of clothes on eBay. I use eBay’s postage label service then drop the parcels off at the Post Office. I normally go into town and use the main Post Office in the WHSmith but occasionally use the Post Office in walking distance (think it’s in a Londis or similar).

I have always found the couple who run this rude, unsmiling and unhelpful and they act like providing any Post Office service is the biggest inconvenience to them, but things came to a head today when I was told they would no longer be accepting my pre-paid labels because “they’re Royal Mail, not Post Office” (??)

I argued about this as I think if they’re using Post Office branding they have no right to do this. They claim it’s because of the space; but when I’ve used them it’s never more than 3 or 4 small parcels (ie containing a dress or a top) as I only use this branch when I’m walking. After a bit of research it looks like the real reason is because they don’t make any money for accepting these pre-paid labels, whereas if I bought postage there they would get a percentage.

Anyway; I started thinking about other Post Offices and again since I’ve been using eBay I’ve used four other similar corner shop outlets (just based on where I’ve happened to be) and all of them have been pretty unfriendly.

So AIBU to think that these shops resent providing (non profit making) postal services? And to think that if they are so unhappy about it they shouldn’t be a Post Office franchise?

OP posts:
Humina · 26/02/2020 23:59

Ours put the parcels unattended on the main shop floor, where anyone could pick them up and piss off with them and it makes my skin itch with worry. I don't use them now. They are never very happy to be dealing with Post Office customers. Our main 'proper' high street branch (where they were very helpful) was closed down even though it was always queued out of the door. Infuriating.

bridgetreilly · 27/02/2020 00:05

Mine are great. Really helpful. Occasionally if I have a stack of parcels and there's someone who just wants to buy a pint of milk, they'll ask if it's okay to pop over and serve them, which seems perfectly reasonable to me. I try to use them a lot, rather than other courier services or the big post office, because I don't want them to go under. They're a Bargain Booze, so I tend not to buy much in there, other than an occasional chocolate bar, but I like the staff a lot, and I love that they are open really late and on Sundays, for the post office as well as the shop.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2020 00:53

I can see both sides to this. On the one hand, they’re running a business and doing a lot of extra work to run the post office, which I doubt makes them much money but is sold as a ‘hub of the community feature’ to encourage people into their shop. If they end up doing the extra work but not seeing any extra trade because of it, it must be very galling.

On a similar principle, I remember reading of a man who owned a small convenience shop somewhere in the Midlands right next to a major bus station, which he probably thought would help a lot with footfall; but the buses didn’t take payment by card and also didn’t give change. The sheer volume of people pouring into his shop every day, buying a single 5p sweet with a £20 note and leaving him having to leave the shop and make several daily trips to the bank for more buckets full of change (for which they charged him a fee), led him to not unreasonably refuse to accept notes for under a certain spend amount. Cue loads of abuse from people angry that ‘this nasty, stupid man didn’t want their custom’ when, in reality, each minuscule transaction was costing him considerably.

On the other hand, main post offices, staffed by people specifically paid to offer post office services and nothing else (save for the odd impulse-buy chocolate stand or vending machine), are now dropping like flies, leaving you with few alternative options but to use the one in the corner shop. It’s all very well the crown POs having agreements to take the pre-paid parcels, but that’s not much use if there is no longer a crown PO within 20 miles. Our old main PO is now a pub with a ‘hilarious’ name based on the fact it used to be a PO (I think this is now the law in such cases), and it’s moved to the back of WH Smith. It’s a decent sized one, obviously not staffed by the people who also own it, as a corner shop would probably be, and the PO bit does have its own full-time dedicated staff, so nobody knows nor cares if you don’t spend anything in the actual shop – but now that the culture is to encourage/force people to use their local shop instead, it’s outrageous to be told that this is now where your local post office is, but it’s also the least you can do to buy a few extra things to support the shop, because the PO is being provided as a ‘favour’ to you.

Ebay are being very greedy – and potentially killing the golden goose that already helps them to make a fortune – by not only under-cutting the PO by pennies on the postage, but also by guiding you step by step into buying it from them once you’ve sold an item, so that a lot of sellers probably don’t even realise that you can alternatively just take it to the PO and buy postage there. As a PP said, by the time you’ve bought a printer and then paid for the paper, ink, electricity and sellotape, you’ve probably saved nothing anyway.

I think we all have to be realistic, though, and understand that the Post Office as we have known it for decades is no longer sustainable as it once was. The amount of letters being sent – domestic and business – has plummeted in recent years. Added to that the fact that there are other companies allowed to compete with them and cherry pick the remaining big business contracts on price, yet RM still somehow has to take the letters ‘the last mile’ and do the hardest, most time-consuming part?! The only thing probably keeping RM clinging on is the parcels from everybody’s myriad online orders, but then again, you get the likes of Hermes and DPD looking to take that business from them – choosing to cover the big concentrated population areas, but then whacking on a huge premium to deliver to the Highlands and Islands, NI and other more sparsely-populated areas, or simply refusing to cover them at all – something which the RM (thank goodness) is not legally allowed to do.

RM and the PO are being forced to adapt with the times, but I don’t envy them in the least for the many challenges that they now face, with the double threat of the online age and the many competitors wanting to take their lucrative trade away but leaving them with the no-profit/loss-making parts. Even now, for less than 80p, somebody will collect a letter from very near your home in Truro and put it through the door of your friend’s house in Thurso the next day – and what does everybody do? Moan about what a huge rip-off it supposedly is.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/02/2020 00:56

Local sorting office? The one where....

Come on now, don't forget that it's open as late as noon, for your convenience....

Lifeinthedeep · 27/02/2020 00:59

Used to work in a post office/shop combined. Some customers were a right pain with their parcels when we had limited space and long queues. It didn’t really bother me enough to be rude though.

WhatTiggersDoBest · 27/02/2020 01:26

YANBU. There's one in York that has done this to me when I was representing my company, to the point that they would lean on the scales while "weighing" my parcels and tell me I hadn't paid enough postage, sending me back to my office and unable to send the parcels. Along with a patronizing lecture about how I was putting their small business out of business by using pre-paid labels (I worked for a multinational company as a receptionist and had no say in work processes). Surprise surprise a few years later the man who ran the place stood for MP - representing UKIP. He didn't win.

The80sweregreat · 27/02/2020 09:24

I know what you mean : our local shop has one and the people working for Royal Mail didn't want to go in there. The employees of the post office are generally grumpy and the ones working in the shop are ok.
It's cramped and not perfect for them , so I can see why they don't like it but they tend to take it out on the customers! It's not our fault! The shop bit probably likes the extra custom.

Spudlet · 27/02/2020 09:32

Our village shop has a post office counter, never encountered any grumpiness from them. That said, it’s a very successful village shop in its own right. You will never, ever be the only customer in there as it’s got a great range of stuff - it won a local retailers prize recently. So no reason for it to be a source of resentment to them, as far as I can tell.

Ninkanink · 27/02/2020 09:37

What, all corner shops? Based on one couple you usually deal with and another site you use irregularly?

YABU to generalise. It’s clear the people you deal with resent it and/or are useless with customer service. I’d complain to the Post office every time and let them know that their franchisees (or whatever they are) are reflecting badly on their brand and service. The people I deal with in two locations (WHS and a small supermarket) are absolutely fine, always friendly and helpful.

Ninkanink · 27/02/2020 09:39

Mind you everything I sell on eBay gets stamped and paid for through the post office.

LRCG · 27/02/2020 09:39

I worked in our local post office in a co-op. We always accepted prepaid labels etc they all just get put into a sack and left for the postie to take with him. Not sure why they'd refuse to accept unless it was a space issue? Post office isn't Royal Mail though, they are like the middle man in between

Hingeandbracket · 27/02/2020 09:40

It's not our fault!
^this. I don't make the rules.

cologne4711 · 27/02/2020 09:41

I find post offices in general need to move into the 21st century as far as service is required. I know they do a lot of things, but they do like to keep customers waiting.

The people who work on the counters in corner shops don't like post office customers. Or indeed people going into collect parcels from the likes of Parcelforce. Our local post office is in a "corner shop" (in the main high street) and has counters at the back but also at the front. A few months ago I went into collect a parcel and asked at the shop counter. The woman was really rude and said go to the post office at the back. I suggested a sign might be useful and she said "we've got one". Yes it said post office at back but not "collect Parcelforce parcels at the back".

Years ago there was a main (Crown?) post office in Blackfriars road and their staff all went for for lunch at noon. Just as everyone was coming in to use the post office, so I went in and 4 counters were open, there was already a bit of a queue and 2 counters closed. Yes people need to get lunch but why don't they operate a shift system. When I had a Saturday job in a library I worked 9-1 and another student worked 12-4 so lunchtime was covered properly. Not rocket science.

Ninkanink · 27/02/2020 09:43

Ah ok just re read and you don’t have issues with WHS either, sorry got confused.

But just so you’re aware, Royal Mail and Post Office are not the same thing, so they may well be within their rights to refuse RM items.

cologne4711 · 27/02/2020 09:43

I should say the staff in the actual post office (at the back) are really helpful and don't faff around making customers hang about.

mnthrowaway202020 · 27/02/2020 09:44

would it kill you to buy a pint of milk or a Mars Bar or something while you are there so that you add a tiny bit to their profitability?

Yes, it would actually. What a stupid response. A customer shouldn’t feel compelled to waste money on crap they weren’t intending to buy just to be able to use post office facilities. If running the post office is such a massive inconvenience and means they’re operating at a loss, it’s obviously a poor business decision to keep running it.

Your post is ignorant of poorer people who might not be able to afford to buy random crap whenever they want to post something. What are they supposed to do? OP sells second hand clothing on eBay, if they were that well off to begin with, surely they would just donate the clothes instead of faffing around to sell them for a poxy value.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 27/02/2020 09:46

The problem with buying the postage before you take it to the PO (as you acknowledge) is that the shop owner gets no money for providing you with a service.
I use my local PO/shop every day for sending parcels - I get a great service - but I actually spend my money on postage there.

Stefoscope · 27/02/2020 10:18

There's no excuse for them being rude, but fair play if they don't want to accept parcels they're not making any money on. It's not cheap to pay rent/mortgage on a commercial premises and business rates on top. That's before you factor in utilities, staff wages, insurance, etc. It's good business sense on their part.

PenelopeFlintstone · 27/02/2020 11:21

Our village has a PO in the shop and they’re actually helpful and polite. I’ve never bought from that shop
I’m aghast that you've never bought anything there!! Shock

rugbychick1 · 27/02/2020 11:32

I'm really lucky then. Our local shop has a PO counter in it. I use it reasonably frequently and am never made to feel a pain if I'm just using the PO counter

Nowayorhighway · 27/02/2020 11:57

There are very few actual post offices now, I only know of one locally but I would be going out of my way to use it. Most are located either within corner shops or WHSmith. I prefer going to WHSmith if I’m being honest because they have self serve so you sort it all yourself.

I’ve experienced the same in corner shops because I sometimes have had 8-10 parcels so it takes a while to process and they always seem huffy about doing their job.

Marcipex · 27/02/2020 12:05

Oh yes, ours are sullen at best Confused only I thought it was me.
They quite often announce they are closed and to return in an hour...I’ll be at work then; I came in on the way.

fastliving · 27/02/2020 18:09

I think it's the same as if you walked into a pub or cafe a few times a week and asked if you could use their loos.
You're not a customer of theirs, yet you want to continuously and frequently use their facilities- even though they have been deliberately cut out of getting a share of the cost of the transaction by you.
I'm not surprised they are grumpy with you, and I'm not surprised they have started to refuse to offer you this free service, from which they gain nothing Biscuit

fastliving · 27/02/2020 18:09

Ps I don't work in a post office and never have!

GoatyGoatyMingeMinge · 27/02/2020 22:30

@fastliving
That's not a very good analogy. To make it more comparable you would need a pub that had agreed with the local council to make its toilets publicly available in the hope that they would get more custom because the council was going to advertise the fact!

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