Doing my bit for the environment now I already have the kids...

[Parsley65]

There has been a lot of talk about the younger generation doing their bit for the environmental by having smaller families.

I am in my 50's with two teens and and a very needy, frail Df in his 90's who is single mindedly sucking the life blood out of both me and the nhs with his determination to cling on when his quality of life is zero.

That sounds harsh I know, but my point is that I really don't want to be such a burden on my kids, on the state, on the environment and I think modern medicine has created a monster that the Government/society doesn't know how to deal with.

I suggest a tax break for those who decide to voluntarily 'give up' either when they get to a certain age (75? 80?) or need a certain level of care. It would be a kindness for all concerned - we all choose this for our sick, elderly pets don't we, rather than let them suffer?

AIBU to suggest a legalised version of euthanasia should be welcomed in this country?

I would definitely sign up.

I get it. I would hate for my children to be burdened by me. But what about those who stand to gain financially by persuading elderly relatives to just give up and sign their life away, even if they're not quite ready? Not everyone has their elderly relatives best interests at heart, sadly.
And what about people with disabilities? Where do you draw the line there? Or those who can't cognitively make that kind of decision for themselves? There are so many variables I can't see it ever happening, even though it would be the 'kind' thing to do for some people who are suffering and there is no doubt they are right at the end of their lives.

I get you, but would the euthanised benefit from the tax break when they’re dead?

*how would

You can get that arranged for yourself if you're terminally ill (Dignitas).

Do you mean you get a lump sum say when your 65 and then some government sponsored hitman will show up at your door at 75?

If you’ve never watched Logan’s run I think you’ll enjoy it.

You can always move to a country where the elderly and ill have zero support outside their immediate family and nature will simply take care of the rest when the time comes.
The younger generation in parts of the developed world will not have much of an impact with their modern educated views and actions On a global scale.
The tax break would imply a certain income level (so that it is worthwhile - although I’m not sure who stands to benefit) so there might be the issue of social division (we don’t need more of it in the UK, surely).
What if you change your mind after you benefit from this tax break, who would enforce the original decision.
I think you are looking at solutions from a narrow, local perspectives based on news stories and the very current national political and economic situation.
But I totally understand and agree with you that a lot of people wouldn’t, willingly, want to be a burden on anyone when they are no longer of use to their family or society and are unable to look after themselves or they can’t fund their own care. The pragmatic or practical sense.
However, I also feel that we don’t choose to be here and shouldn’t choose when to leave and we can’t make this decision for anyone else , and I would never, ever wish for a dear one to speed up their departure for practical reasons but it is deeply saddening if they are in any kind of pain, hence medical support to alleviate this is essential. I find it hard to let it go. Pets are completely different than humans.
Above all this, I’m really sorry you are going through such a difficult time with your DF - it is such a heart breaking, emotionally and physically draining time.

Listen to this OP. Dark comedy about exactly what you're suggesting.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007kjj

I find this post terrifying.
See how you feel when you get to that age.

You can’t euthanise everyone because your dad is a Pain in the arse !

If you want to do your bit for the environment, it's more likely that your footprint is bigger than your fathers .....
No I do not support anyone committing suicide however it's dressed up

Watch Black Mirror San Junipero. That's a solution I can get on board with.

Seems a bit young! Most of my relatives get to at least 88ish before needing any extra care. (we're Italian)
DGM is 86 and still has my youngest cousins stay with her for the school holidays (age 12 and 14).
DM is planning on the same, she says she's planning to get to 90 and meet her great grand children.

I think a lot of it depends on health/whether you get dementia/and if you are not lonely. If I've still got my mind and a ton of relatives around I'm sticking around as long as I can - DGF visited Chile (from Rural Italy) in his mid 80s when my uncle settled down with a Chilean wife.

That’s pretty scary. My parents are 75 and close to it, my dad has got frailer over the past year but certainly not enough to be euthanized

Yeah! I'll take the tax break, but will be out fell walking, with my dog when they come to get me for the 'procedure'

I know it's a very complex issue and I certainly don't have all the answers.
Perhaps something like Dignitas over here for starters - obviously with all the checks and double checks to make sure it's safe.

I watched a Canadian drama on Netflix last year called 'Mary Kills People' about a Doctor who had a side line in ending the life of terminally ill patients. Obviously highly illegal, but the interesting part was how the patients planned their end, drank drugged champagne and died peacefully in the arms of loved ones. That bit stayed with me.