Femicide Census 2018. Where is the outrage?

[CaveMum]

Where are the pledges from politicians? Where is the outrage from social commentators? Where are the the police and the judiciary?

We are women, we are disposable.

Full details here: femicidescensus.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Femicide-Census-Report-on-2018-Femicides-.pdf

Lifted from report:

Main findings from Femicide Census report of killings of women in the UK in 2018:
• 149 women were killed by 147 men.14
• 91 women (61%) were killed by their current or former
male spouse or intimate partner.
• 12 women (8%) were killed by sons or step-sons; a further 5 women (3%) were killed by a son-in-law or ex son-in-law.
• Only 6% of Femicide (9victims)were committed by a stranger or where there was no known relationship between the victim and the perpetrator.
• There was evidence of previous abuse or violence in over half the cases where the perpetrator was known to the victim (52%; 69 out of 133 cases).
The youngest victim was aged 14 years15 and the eldest 100, with 23 women (16%) aged 66 or over when killed.
• Approximately one third of victims (34%) had a child/children under 18 when killed.
• In at least 37 cases, women had separated/taken steps to separate from their male partner.
• 41%(37of91)Of women killed by a partner/ex had separated or taken steps to separate with 30% of them (11/37) killed within the first month and 70% (24/37) killed within the first year.
• 102 (68%) femicides took place in the woman’s home, whether shared with the perpetrator (33%) or not (35%).
• Men most frequently killed women with a sharp instrument (69 cases; 46%).
• Overkilling was evident in over half the femicides (83 cases, 56%).
• Mostperpetratorswereagedbetween26–55 (100 perpetrators, 68%).
• At least 76 (52%)perpetrators were known to have had histories of previous violence against women.
• Three perpetrators had killed women before.
• At least 16 (11%)perpetrators used pornographers and/or
women in prostitution in relation to the femicide.
• 89perpetrators(61%)Were found guilty of murder.
• 25perpetrators(17%)were found guilty of manslaughter; 12 (8%) on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
• Sentences for murder ranged from minimum tariffs of 12.5–38 years.
• Sentences for manslaughter ranged from 2–20.5 years, with three perpetrators being given suspended sentences and eight being given hospital orders/detained under the Mental Health Act.

May they all RIP 😢

funding. If a woman (or indeed a man) has picked the wrong partner (or child - it does happen and it happens on here) they need help to escape before the violence escalates to murder. That means access to refuges and services.

I'm guessing those are in short supply.

and we also need a campaign and 'awareness' (I really hate that) regarding a normal relationship and what is not normal. Too many on here have to ask if a push from a drugged up son, a hole in the wall from a partner and so on is something they should just accept. No it is not.

So true @mencken, women need to be raised to have more self worth, to not feel like they need a man, and to know what a healthy relationship looks like. It breaks my heart to see so many women on here asking if really abusive behaviour is normal, or that feel it’s their place to serve their family, and accept being bottom of the pile.

It’s also highlighting how biased against women the justice system is. As a poster pointed out elsewhere, “One [man] threw his mother off a balcony and got a suspended sentence? Another beat his wife to death with a crowbar and got a suspended sentence? WTF is going on?”

Suspended sentence...WTAF?!!!

Dare I ask what "overkilling" means?

Here is a question are these statistics proven statistics or do they include "sex gone wrong" or when the police decide women should scream a little quieter for there neighbour's sake? Because I'm interested in how the statistics stack up convicted against reporting crimes

@WhatKatyDidNot it means more force than was needed to kill was used. We’re basically talking about mutilation and desecration of the body.

@WhatKatyDidNot this is the definition from the 2017 Femicide Census

That means access to refuges and services. I'm guessing those are in short supply.

A family member left an abusive relationship. She couldn't get a place in a refuge so moved around between family members sleeping on sofas. The council, to be fair to them, did rehouse her and gave her priority banding but the property she successfully bid on needed sixteen weeks worth of renovations before they could give her the keys. The council offered emergency accommodation in a hostel at a cost of £300 per week which she could not afford so she spent those sixteen weeks continuing to sleep on sofas. She spoke to a solicitor to try and get access to the cash, jewellery, and share of the joint bank accounts that were rightfully hers. She was over the threshold for legal aid and the solicitor advised that it probably wouldn't be able to be resolved by letter, her DH would probably fight it and it would end up in court where she would be looking at a legal bill in the thousands. She contacted the police and asked if they would escort her to the property to get her belongings, her cash, and her jewellery (which she planned to sell to raise funds for furnishing her house). Four times the police failed to turn up to the arranged appointment. On the fifth occasion they phones instead of turning up in person and advised that as she had a non-molestation order against her DH and he was refusing to wait outside of the property, she was not allowed to go inside and get her belongings as it would breach the order. A few days later her DH attempted to kidnap her from her place of work by trying to drag her into a car. She managed to run away and reported it to the police. The police issued a warrant for his arrest and despite him going about his daily business as usual and therefore being very easy to find, it took them four weeks to actually go and arrest him. He was released on bail despite stating several times when interviewed that he probably would breach the non-molestation order again as he needed to "sort things out" with his wife.

The system is set up in such a way that it endangers women and its wrong.

Here’s a man who gets it. His response when another man asked what men are supposed to do about male violence: twitter.com/michealconraoi/status/1230457592377487360?s=21

I will be sharing this shocking data with my children’s school. Their RSE materials quote the trans murder stats as a reason for the kids to give up their single sex spaces. Given that this UK femicide figure is higher than the global trans numbers in the same year, I will suggest they back off with the sadface emotional manipulation.

Oh and @lilmisstoldyouso fuck off with your minimising bullshit.

That Twitter thread in full:

The onus is on us as men. What do YOU suggest?
some thoughts from me, in no particular order:

1. Challenge sexist comments
2. Boycott abusive sex industries
3. Become informed of the prevalence/ range of #maleviolence
4. Allow boys to be gentle
5. Allow ourselves to be vulnerable
6. Listen more than speak

mentions 7. Follow lots of feminists on social media

1. Read what they say. Resist butting in.
2. Meet with other men to start discussion groups about ending #MVAWG

10. Look at how the media frame stories of domestic abuse. Study the language choices. 11. Ask men who support #porn - why? mentions 12. Ask men who support #prostitution -why? 13. Tell your friends you’re there for them if they ever have things preying on their mind. When you’re sober. 14. Fundraise 4 austerity-ravaged frontline women’s services 14. Ask men if they buy their kid’s pressies. If not why not? mentions 15. Is it ‘just banter’ or are we enforcing rules? 16. Ask yourself the last time you got cat-called 17. Ask yourself the last time you had a random person telling you to smile 18. Ask yourself the last time someone tried to sneak a picture of your privates 19. Accept that women mentions Need single-sex spaces. Never criticize them for that. 20. Cook. Clean. Deal with skid-marks. 21. Ask yourself if you are praised as a man for something g women do without being noticed. 22. Use your nouse

Yes, there are 2 number 14’s.

23. Acknowledge the full and autonomous humanity of women.
24. Think through the problems in not giving a toss THEN listen when women say they don’t want ‘white knights’ - and don’t get angry with that.
25. Find out if yr female colleagues doing the same job are paid the same mentions 26. Wonder what it’s like to be a girl growing up in s hyper-sexualised culture
26. Talk to the boys in your life about feelings, about the importance of empathy
27. Ask yourself - am I empathetic? Really?
28. Accept you don’t have to ‘win’ conversations
29. Keep doing it

Thanks, CaveMum - as I feared. Uncontrollable hatred, even after death. This is very different to male-on-male violence, isn't it?

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Thank you MNHQ for listening to the voices on this thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_campaigns/3829010-MNHQ-here-Femicide-Census-want-to-know-what-you-could-do-to-help