To think neighbours are being selfish over extension?

[nearlynot]

Extension is ground and first floor, 5.5 meters long, with ground level extending a bit further. West facing.

Is neighbour BU to object if half the garden will have no extension or shadowing. Neighbour always home and claims it will be detrimental to have shadow over back of the house/windows. Who is BU?

left my last house over this, neighbour built extension west facing, totally blocked our light to rear of property, we had to keep light on all the time, but council planning dept will not refuse your extension over lack of light!

Will objecting or having to complain down the line mean that if I had to sell my house, then i'd have to declare this and it would negatively impact me selling?

Yes and no - objecting formally to a planning application doesn't count as a "neighbour dispute", but any complaints which arise in future as a result of it could well do

This has probably been said already, but while you're entirely free to lodge an objection, it's worth researching what grounds are valid and which ones aren't. Some examples here from a Lincolnshire site:

parishes.lincolnshire.gov.uk/Files/Parish/94/Grounds_for_Planning_Objection.pdf

If planning permission is given then it’s ok.

That is a massive extension. If you are planning an extension that will keep the afternoon light from reaching their windows and a large chunk of their garden (presumably your houses are attached or close to each other and you are to the south of the other house) then YABVU. That is a very selfish thing to do. How would you like it if the sun never came into your house?

I am surprised your council would allow a 5.5m two story extension.

I have a west facing garden and am like house 2. My neighbour like middle house is on that same side of me and their single story extension casts shadow over my garden a lot for half a day, a bit for some of the day and then not much for the rest of the day. I wish it wasn't there as it makes my back reception room dark even with patio doors all across the back wall.
Do fight this, at the very least don't allow for the extra length at your boundary. Good luck.

...and the fact it is 2 story high is literally double the darkness. :-(

Currently having a conservatory built and, after reading some of these comments, I'm expecting a lynch mob imminently 🙄

Harls1969
Don't worry. Whilst some people on think you should never do any renovations or extensions and should instead ignore all other lovely features about your house and location to move house rather than improve your current house, in the real world most people accept that renovations are a fact of life, the noise is a bit annoying, but as long as the people renovating do so with consideration then it's just something to get on with.

It’s just a conservatory so don’t really see that being offensive as a two story extension

Thanks all. I'm now waiting to hear back how this will progress, speaking at a hearing thing has been listed as a possible next step. How will this be any different to the information i've already submitted?

Once the extension is complete, would it BU to not allow the neighbour complaining to then use said new driveway for access to complete building work on their property (albeit smaller work)? Actually once the extension is built

Speaking from first hand experience... OP, once the rather large extension is built, presuming that firstly you get planning permission(they do have a right to light in certain circumstances btw), and secondly, that you’re perfectly OK with permanently upsetting your neighbours, for possibly the entire duration of you both living next door to each other. That could literally be decades!

Especially as the disagreement will probably result in them not talking to you and probably creating a really tangible awkward ‘atmosphere’ between you. Other neighbours may unintentionally become embroiled by the circumstances too and feel torn, with divided loyalties, speaking from experience... Inevitably, it would be seen by many, including your neighbours, as totally petty of you indeed to deny them access to complete their extension, having already completed on your own extension. Denying them access to complete their own extension may detrimentally affect the final finish of it, which may become an eyesore for you as a result.

If either of you moved, or should I say ‘when’ as that’s inevitable at some point, then whoever is moving house would be legally obliged to declare the animosity, and how it arose, in a legal document, a really extensive multiple paged questionnaire about the property.

Personally, and I think many would agree with me, that it would be really very petty of you to deny them access to facilitate them to complete building works on their property. Especially given that, as you put it, they’re extension is “albeit smaller work”. If you don’t allow them access, then they maybe forced to complete the work for their extension from ’their’ side. Which could then have an impact upon the final finish of their extension, and become a permanent eyesore for you.

My neighbour had a large extenuating built so they no longer had side access.

They thought it completely reasonable for the window cleaner to use my side access and then use his ladder to gain access to their rear windows.

They also thought they could use my side return to store their bins as they no longer had a garage.

Additionally, they also thought using my drive for their builders was a good idea.

I refused scaffolding to be placed on my property, as they needed access for a window alteration - they changed to a full length access on there’s.

It’s annoying. And selfish.

Where do you live btw, OP?
I’m asking because I want to make sure that I’ll never ever have you as a neighbour. I’d have a breakdown with your attitude.

isn't it already established in case law that no one has an absolute right for their land not to be shadowed or their view to be unimpeded? they can make their objection on those grounds but it won't be upheld. better for them to make the objection and to have it it overruled than to persuade them not to object and have them always feeling they could have stopped it.

they do have the right not to be overlooked but presumably there are no windows planned in the relevant direction?

@Ippydippyskyblue RRTT before making snarky comments towards The OP, who happens to be the poor neighbour objecting to the extension!!!!

isn't it already established in case law that no one has an absolute right for their land not to be shadowed or their view to be unimpeded? they can make their objection on those grounds but it won't be upheld

No quite correct.

No one has an absolute right - no (apart from Ancient Light Rights, but those are very different).
But Planning legislation exists to protect the amenities of neighbours. So if a development is going to result in material harm through blocking light to principal rooms, or resulting in a sense of enclosure, or causing visual dominance or loss of outlook, planning permission can be refused.

The problem with planning is that most of the decisions are based on very subjective issues, and a matter of balance. One person's impression of whether something is causing material harm can be very different from another's. And the weight given to each element (whether positive or negative) will vary as well. It is always worth objecting if you have concerns.

I've seen you're going to speak at a hearing. Some advice on that in here on what to do next -
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1912384108?tag=mumsnetforu03-21
Good luck!

So what you need to do is build a giant fuck off new SHED just after their extension finishes so you block their light

Like this >>>

@LaurieFairyCake, sadly that shed would just cast another shadow to the right of it on the only remaining part of our garden that will get sun.

They were granted approval, so our home and garden are indeed fucking ruined.

I'm really sorry to hear that OP. Did they seem to take your concerns seriously at all at the hearing?
I'm trying to think of a bright side - if you want to move some fucker who wants to build a matching mega extension will happily buy it? (Sorry best I could do).
Maybe they will go broke and not be able to do it after all

They didn't even do the hearing, I just received an email saying they had approval and that was that. They didn't believe a solid 2 storey shadow across my home and garden would be detrimental. No other extension has been done in the area like this, it is really shocking. I can't get over how selfish people can be, but somehow i'm the selfish one.

I've thrown away 10s of thousands to make use of the sunlight at the back and that will now all be under shadow, let alone the cost of the landscaping. I feel sick over the waste, who wants to sit beside dead plants in a cold shadowed patch. It was adapted for my mobility problems so I can't just go elsewhere. I came here fleeing DV to our forever home and thought things were finally looking up. I'm in poor health and my situation won't allow me to move but I still look up rightmove when i can't sleep (there is nothing and there's no point but I need some sort of escapism).

OP, I'm so sorry for you. You must be completely gutted. I would feel exactly the same as you. I seriously hope it won't be as bad as it seems now. Revenge, it's said, is a dish best served cold (I would be seeking revenge for sure) so make sure you log some neighbour disputes with the council. Sooner or later these obnoxious people will want to get a return on their investment, logged disputes will reduce the value of their fancy new mansion.

How shitty @nearlynot. Is there an option for you to appeal the decision?

Missed pages- I'm
Sorry they have won. Is there any grounds for appeal, given you so t seem to ha e much support with the objection?