Friend thinks celebrities deserve what they get

[Piggy52a]

I feel very sad about a conversation I had with a friend about the way celebrities are treated by the media.

My friend says celebrities deserve what they get and that as they court the limelight they should be able to take the negative side. If they don’t like it get a different job.

You can imagine who we were talking about and although this is an extreme situation I can help but feeling this is so uncaring and I can’t believe that our views are so different.

AIBU to think nobody deserves to be treated so badly? Should celebrities deal with it as part of the lifestyle?

The answer is for people to stop buying shitrag papers and clicking on their websites.

Well it depends, doesn't it. The issue is way too complex to be so simply boiled down to a yes or no question. They're people too, celebrities, and their behaviour and circumstances differ hugely.

We weren’t talking about the wronguns. They deserve everything they get. It was just your average celebrity whose job just happens to be on TV.

I just think some people are desperate for fame and fortune not realising the high cost it brings if you make a mistake. Noone deserves be so utterly hounded the only way out they can see Is to take their own life.

It's not just the newspapers, social media especially Twitter is awful for bullying people.

I said to someone that Philip Schofield is getting a battering on twitter with no proof it happened and he'll end up killing himself. I didn't realise how bad it was for Caroline..

Exactly, @Hingeandbracket. People love to act like the 'media' is publishing this stuff to an empty auditorium, and that the public as a whole reject and are incensed by any sort of tabloid gossip, when the reality is they are clicking and buying into it in droves.

It's like the same dummies who write in the comments section of a Kardashian Daily Mail article- 'Who is giving these idiots airtime'.. YOU, THE CONSUMER OF THE ARTICLE!
Where there is demand, there will be a supply. So people should start pointing the finger at themselves, and realise that for every click of a seemingly inconsequential article about some shit that a celeb got up to, they are feeding the beast.

I don't agree with him completely but What people don't realise is a lot of celebs have publists who tell the press where Their people are what night clubs they are leaving it's all a elaborate set up for a lot including Katie price.

Not saying for all but let's not pretend people don't behave like this.

... And it just so happens that people LOVE misery and scandal which is why they keep publishing it. Clicks= ad revenue. People are shitty and love to see the downfall of others. #bekind my arse

I think by your friends logic, we should all be able to take whatever any job throws at us if we actively pursued it. E.g you chose to be a paramedic and now you have PTSD due to An incident on the job. Well tough, you chose that job. Never mind that you were unsupported and sent into an unsafe environment which should never have happened. It was a job you wanted to do. . . YANBU to think that celebrities deserve compassion too

I don't know. I think it's way too easy to dehumanise people.
In every walk of life we have extroverts and introverts.
Attention seekers, tra la la people and bugger off people.
Nobody deserves to be treated badly and every, single, person has feelings.

As cheeserton says it's not a yes or no question. t is far more nuanced.
Some celebrities use their status to take advantage of vulnerable people - we could all name lots I'm sure - Jimmy Saville, Harvey Weinstein, Rolf Harris, - do they deserve to be called out on appalling behaviour, obviously yes, behaved suvch as they show should be condemned famous or not, the fact that they use fame to their advantgae makes it even worse IMO.

Another ase - people who use the media to build a career for themselves, by tipping the media off if they are to appear somewhere, by endlessly selling every detail of thier lives to Hello magazine etc. when in fact they have little actual talent. I'm not condemning what they do - if someone wants to buy it, people will sell it - but I think it would be a little hypocritical of them to complain if media intrusion suddenly takes a turnt hey don't like.

The type of people you are talking about (I presume) is people who make a living that happens to put them in the public eye - be they presenters, actors, business men - etc - they aren;t couritng the media, media intrusion is an unwanted by product of their career (although obviously not quite that clearcut) generally the people they need t impress are those that hire them, not the media.

Another category - politicians - again it depends on how far you feel someone's private life impacts their public position. If an MP cheats on his wife is it no one;s business but his, or do we as the public deserve to know that someone is essentially a deceptive person. A debatable point.

Maybe you should have a slightly deeper conversation with your friend - currently you both seem to have a rather blinkered outlook.

I do think that if you want to be a celebrity then you must put up with a certain amount of media attention as folks at home generally like to find out snippets about their real lives. This has been the case for hundreds of years.
However , being hounded by paparazzi is not acceptable, but then, paparazzi provide folk with the shots that the public crave. Eg Princess Diana... millions of people were obsessed with her and would buy any publication that featured her ...yet.. these very same people blamed the paparazzi for her death! ( actually due to a drunk driver.)
Many celebs love and actually court publicity ( eg Katie Price) but then get a tad hypocritical when they get adverse publicity.
Trolling is a different matter but some folk like to bring others down. It’s always been the case.

However , I know who you’re talking about and that person was clearly very distressed over an impending court case about her violence towards a partner. This case would have created a lot of adverse attention and she clearly couldn’t cope with it.
All so very sad but criminal proceedings are the price that you have to pay when you’ve been accused of committing a crime. Unfortunately, this person was a public figure who clearly couldn’t deal with the repercussions.

I agree partly. Those that court the limelight, and then have the cheek to turn round and say they don't want it?

It’s the nature of the beast. You want fame then sometimes you have to dance with the devil. I guess with the media it’s a reciprocal arrangement - they give you the exposure needed to raise your profile and in return you have to share your life with them; the good and the bad.