Ways to stop DH taking my child to his home country

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I'm 14 weeks pregnant and had a dreadful nightmare last night.
I'm British and DH is Turkish.

He has never threatened to do anything of the sort but my nightmare last night has really made me think! In the dream we broke up and I asked for a divorce.. he then threatened to take my baby back to Turkey with him.

Is there any laws/ways this can be prevented? If I don't give my consent then surely that's enough?! (Maybe I'm being naïve)

If anyone's interested, here's a useful link about family law in Turkey - the bit about children starts just over half way down

And yes, I realise this is a hypothetical case ...

uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/6-616-4228?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true&bhcp=1

As someone else said it all comes down to trust. It is a risk you take when you have a child with someone. In reality, if it happened and he was on the birth certificate, you would pursue him through the hague convention for the return of your child. As the applicant (not defendant), your legal costs would be covered. His would not. Most countries are signed up to the hague convention, but some countries have a history of enforcing it better than others, so whilst theoretically you would win, in practice sometimes it's not so straight forward. I'm not sure what Turkey's history is on that. The only watertight method is to leave him off the birth certificate.

I think it's a perfectly natural thought to be having in these circumstances, conscious or otherwise.

Hope you get some reassuring info OP

I'd be concerned why you are having a baby with this man if you don't trust him

A bit late for that comment to be of any use ...

If your child has dual nationality
Dual nationality means being the national of more than one country. A child may be a dual national if they were born or lived overseas or if one of their parents holds the nationality of another country. Dual nationality may limit what the FCO can do to help if your child has been taken to the country of their other nationality, as the local authorities may view your child only as a national of that country. www.gov.uk/government/publications/international-parental-child-abduction/international-parental-child-abduction

Something to keep in mind in the future for any parent of a dual nationality child.

Dreams like this are common in early pregnancy. I had a few myself about DH leaving etc. It's a dream. It's fine. Forget about it. You trusted him enough to marry him. Don't worry.

Don't worry too much OP. I had some mad dreams whilst pregnant both times. None ever came to fruition in any way whatsoever.

It was just a dream. Don’t worry.
All the U.K. immigration talks are about tier visas not family visas so you husbands ILR should not be affected. Besides, he would be grandfathered in. Just like they did when it went from 3yrs married to get ILR to 5yr track with £18k/yr income or 10yr track with under thresholds income to get ILR.

Go and register his birth by yourself, keep him off the birth certificate. You can always add him at a later date once you are more confident with how things are going

MN is bonkers sometimes

I can’t help feeling that this thread is designed to attract some of the more bonkers MN posts.

You don’t automatically get Turkish nationality though. My dad had to register us, my other friends who also have one or
two Turkish parents have not got dual nationality. FWIW my dad regrets bothering, largely due to Turkish bureaucracy that makes everything a faff.

If you have concerns don't get the Turkish passport. Your husband won't automatically be rejected for a spousal visa if he/you meet the requirements. I'm not sure why you were told that? I have 5 year route ILR. My application was rejected multiple times because the actual application is impenetrable but they were errors. It all happened in the end.

op this sounds like you are more worried about the blasted home office than your husband & being separated - could I suggest that YOU start investigating another alternative for all of you - why not check out whether Canada might accept you both? Even he gets accepted by HO this will give you some peace of mind.

WorraLiberty
Tbh isn't doesn't sound like the strongest of marriages anyway....I wouldn't want to live in Turkey either but I married my husband for better or worse and if he could no longer live in the UK, of course I'd go with him.......That and the fact you're worried he's going to kidnap his child, doesn't bode well for the future.

FFS, IT WAS A DREAM

I do think it's very wise to think all these things through OP. It's good to know what the risks are if you should split and what can/cannot be done to stop the children being separated from either of you.

When I was expecting my first DD, there was a lot of publicity about a nasty case involving just this sort of event and it did give me pause for thought.

My DH has dual nationality for somewhere that the UK has good diplomatic and legal relations with but it is also very far away.

At the time, babies did not have to have their own passports and could travel as an addition to a parent’s one. She was put on mine as it was unlikely she would need to travel without me ( breastfeeding) until later and then I kept hold off both DD’s passports as part of family admin.

My marriage was solid at the time ( still married now !) and I trusted him but things can go sideways and it’s not unreasonable to at least think about it the ramifications of it.

damnthatanxiety yes of course it was a 'DREAM', as I pointed out to a PP.

However, the OP has said...

I think what has spurred this dream on has been the talk on the news around the new visa system coming into place next year. If for some reason he gets rejected for his ILR he'd need to go back to Turkey. I don't speak the language and I've already made it clear I'd prefer to bring our child up here.