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Racism in its ugliest form...

20 replies

Hadenoughofitall441 · 12/02/2020 23:03

I’ve been reading a lot about chinese people being singled out and abused about the corona virus, I think it’s absolutley disgraceful especially since it was an English guy who brought it over here in the first place, near my hometown I might add. I get that people are scared but it’s bang out of order that they are getting treated like this for something that’s out of thier control. The same thing happened with Muslims on the 7/7 london bombings. You shouldn’t paint everyone with the same brush. I’m a white English girl with an Indian and Irish background, you wouldn’t know because you don’t know straight off the bat, just as people don’t know anything about people you stand or sit with. You can get on a bus and catch the flu, stand in line next to someone and catch chicken pox. You put yourself at Risk everyday, maybe a small one but it’s still a risk. So why do we need to single out people based on ethnicity for something that has been hyped up IMO. Let’s show a little respect we are all fighting the same battle.

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MerryInthechelseahotel · 12/02/2020 23:07

Well said. I fully agree with you. Some people are ignorant.

JaneR0chester · 12/02/2020 23:08

Agree.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 23:08

I haven't seen any Chinese people being abused. Do you think avoiding situations where there is a Chinese community is racist?
I think you need to calm down a bit.
People fearing a virus with a 3 % mortality rate is not racist. If this was in Australia people would still be fearing the virus.

JaneR0chester · 12/02/2020 23:10

It would be interesting to see what those who don't agree /think you're BU say...

Elouera · 12/02/2020 23:10

Agree. We ordered a Chinese meal this week. Mainly because we like it time to time, but also heard that a great deal of Chinese restaurants have been boycotted and hardly anyone is visiting/ordering from them!

buttermilkwaffles · 12/02/2020 23:14

"I haven't seen any Chinese people being abused."

Just because you (or I) haven't witnessed it doesn't mean it's not happening:

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-chinese-people-face-abuse-in-the-street-over-outbreak-11931779

Thedogscollar · 12/02/2020 23:15

It all boils down to ignorance and stupidity.

Honeybee85 · 12/02/2020 23:15

My husband is half Chinese (and therefor so is our son) and I would hate it for them to receive any racial abuse because of their background.

But I do understand that people avoid going to Chinese restaurants etc. now out of fear. We love visiting the Chinese district in our city normally for a stroll and a meal but we’re also avoiding it now and even my DH says he doesn’t feel comfortable around large groups of Chinese tourists that visit our city.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/02/2020 23:15

What is your evidence that the virus has been hyped up? Why do you think it’s hyped up?

I have not seen Chinese people being abused and I travel regularly on the tube.

I dint think it’s racist to ask people coming from China to self isolate, this is not because they are Chinese, but because the virus is predominantly spread in China.

Honeybee85 · 12/02/2020 23:16

I mean our son is therefor partly Chinese too

3rdchristmaslucky · 12/02/2020 23:16

It's not racism. It's fear and it's xenophobia.

People with very little understanding of the virus know that it established in China and is being spread outside of China by people who have visited, passed through or have come into contact with those who have done so.

The easiest way to identify someone who might have done this is when they identify themselves as Chinese. And as unreasonable as it is to avoid them, people are doing this because they are scared, not because they are racist.

I assure you if everyone white person who has recently been to or been in contact with someone from china was to walk around with a sign on them, they would be getting avoided like the plague too.

It's not right. But it's the price of ignorance.

Won't stop me eating my noodles. I'm more scared of the flu.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/02/2020 23:17

What is ignorant is OP’s claim that the virus is hyped up.

LoseLooseLucy · 12/02/2020 23:19

Racism in its ugliest form? Not really. Ignorance certainly, but it's coming from a sense of fear, not hatred.

3rdchristmaslucky · 12/02/2020 23:21

News.sky.com/story/coronavirus-chinese-people-face-abuse-in-the-street-over-outbreak-11931779

Now that's racism. Ugh what absolute pigs.
That's nothing to do with the virus. That's just being shitty people.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 12/02/2020 23:23

@Honeybee85 fgs, unless you are arriving on a flight from CHINA nobody is going to think anything.

A man in my office his son returned from China a few days ago and is staying with him and that makes me very nervous. They're both white.

You're mixing up issues here.

iswhois · 12/02/2020 23:24

I haven't seen any of it in UK

But I do think the Chinese need to be held accountable as their obsession with eating everything that moves has caused the outbreak (and SARS before this)

LastTrainEast · 12/02/2020 23:26

Hadenoughofitall441 abusing Chinese people because some people in China have a virus is stupid as well as nasty, but that's not racism.
I doubt anyone is really saying Chinese people have the virus because of their ethnic origins. It's about the perceived odds of them having had contact with others who have the virus.

People think any Chinese person has an extremely high chance of carrying it because they don't know how to assess risk properly. Of course a Chinese person who got off a plane from China does have some chance of carrying it so it's not totally baseless, but nearly so.

Honeybee85 · 12/02/2020 23:26

@Salmonofknowledge

I don’t live in the UK but in Asia, the situation is completely different here. I suggest you stop judging my decisions to try to keep my family safe as you know absolutely nothing about the situation at where we live.

Hadenoughofitall441 · 12/02/2020 23:28

@iswhois but not all chinese people do that, my point exactly about painting them all with the same brush. And the reports are still a little cloudy on the source and how it’s been spread. I’ve seen about 5 different versions.

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MilesEdgeworth · 12/02/2020 23:42

In previous thread on here poster said that China deserved the coronavirus for being a 'nation of heartless, cruel bastards'.

It has certainly brought out the racists (although I agree that avoiding Chinese restaurants isn't necessarily racist, I know Chinese people who are currently avoiding Chinese restaurants).

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