Am I being unreasonable to say most people are no longer religious?

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I mean how many people actually believe in a “god”, there are so many human interpretations of the same religious texts that if a all knowing being had created them, they would surely have cleared it up by now.

I only ask as more I think and read my former religious text of choice, I don’t agree with its words on homosexuality, slavery and treatment of women. So I just find my morals are better that what’s in it.
I’m pushed to atheism as I’ve not enough proof to just believe.
Not saying isn’t anything, but proof seems flawed.

www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/why-wrong-say-bible-pro-slavery/

This is the best I can do for now

I feel sorry for people that believe. They devote their whole life to something that isn’t real. I suppose if it gives them comfort it’s ok but I just don’t get it.

I feel sorry for people who don't believe. They live their whole lives without faith in God. I suppose if it makes them happy, it's okay but I just don't get it.

I think many people have replaced traditional religious ideology and participation in religious life with identity politics (the texts, dogma) and activism (their activities). Well said.

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Same goes for me!

YABU.. Although assuming you are in the west then the observation is understandable! Pew Research 2012 found that 84% worldwide are religious: atheism is still very much a minority position.

saying things like "So I just find my morals are better that what’s in it" will not win you any friends/support.

But for decades/forever people have been calling [living a normal, decent life] "Christian values" so why the outrage when the tables are turned?

Christian values do exist, and it seems reasonable for Christians to use them as a point of comparison.

The same would also be true for humanists describing humanist values.

If the OP has a set of moral values, but she can’t actually explain where those values have come from it seems unlikely that she as an individual randomly has come up with the best possible belief system in the entire world, coherent enough to start comparing other people’s beliefs to it.

Nope, definitely not unreasonable if you’re referring to the uk. However a quick google would have settled your quandary. Given your subsequent questioning though, I don’t think that’s why you asked

I do believe in G-d, but there are times when I question my faith. Tbh even if I was an atheist, I'd still have a moral code.

Everyone has a moral code.

Exactly, you don't have to believe in a god or gods to have a sense of right and wrong.

People who dis religion love quoting the Old Testament, I've found
But christianity is based on the New Testament
Love your neighbour as yourself
Simple
Easy to remember
And a good rule to live by, no matter what else you believe in.
"Your neighbour'' is everyone you meet, and thus includes slaves too

Depends what you mean by religion really. If you mean a moral code with a level of spirituality then I think this is very much held by most people. If you include a theology in the concept of religion, well that depends on what you define as a god.

Arguably the worship of fame and money has created new gods which people spend their lives worshiping and use these things to provide a framework to their existence.

Every religion has a shelf life, in the history of the world the Abraham I’ve faiths have existed for a very short time in comparison to many other belief systems which existed before.

I think we will always have a god with associated belief system/moral framework as I think people need to have something external greater than them to give them, as an individual meaning. Whether this god is a supernatural being will change throughout the years.

I can only answer for myself. I was raised Catholic, attended church etc. I really believed it as a child, teenager and even early twenties, not all the beliefs just that Jesus was the son of God etc. Lately I have realised how problematic a lot of the teachings are, and also, thinking logically - it just seems impossible to me really.

My son goes to a catholic school and they do pray but they aren’t forceful with it. He knows his dad doesn’t believe in god at all. We tell him that it doesn’t matter if he believes or not, as long as he is kind that’s the important thing.

YANBU to 'say that most people are not religious', which is what your title asks. As long as you're clear about where these 'most people' are, and that you're restricting your statement to the UK. But YABU to write an opening post and then follow up posts which bear absolutely no relevance to the title. The posts seem mainly to be about why you, personally, are an atheist. Ok, believe what you want, it's up to you, but what's your AIBU question?

saying things like "So I just find my morals are better that what’s in it" will not win you any friends/support.

I've had many Christians astounded at my morals being as I don't have any 2000 year olds books to tell me what to do. It's utterly bizarre. Reciprocal altruism is in built, heritable, genetic. Religious people didn't invent it, they just quite poorly with a sexist spin codified it.

The pew research centre reports 16% of the world's population as no religion or unaffiliated. The majority of the world's population are religious with Christianity still the majority religion in 2015. From memory the 2011 census has my bit of the UK having around 40ish percent no religion. People llive in networks and echo chambers these days so it would be quite possible to think that no one is religious as no one in your echo chamber has a faith. We are out there running food banks and night shelters, debt advice services and the like. For Christians this social action follows on from Jesus saying that we should love our neighbours as ourselves.

For a Christian working through an ethical problem they would be appealing to different ethical principals than someone of no faith. Utilitarianism and the principal of autonomy seem to be the main ones that are cited by humanists. The majority of Christians are not fundamentalist but if you don't know many then I suppose it would be easy to think that all Christians believe the Bible is the literal sword of God which we don't.

Word of God. Although bits of the OT are bloody. Good job we are not fundamentalists.

From memory the 2011 census has my bit of the UK having around 40ish percent no religion.

My dad always puts Church of Scotland on forms because culturally he is. He's an atheist.

@MrsTerryPratchett you’ve known Christians who think you’re immoral for not following Christianity?

All my neighbours are religiously observant- Muslim or Catholic.

My house is the only godless hotbed of sodomy and debauchery on the street, I think.

I’m very confused about it all. I believe 100% that we were created by God but I’m not sure about a personal relationship with God. I’m not sure about heaven and hell. I would love to believe that God listens to us but I’m not sure.

The old testament is also part of christianity, even jesus says so. It is the saw of the creation myth and the reason for jesus death to redeem humanity. Are you saying god was wrong? The old and new testament both condone slavery. The god if the old testament is also in favour of child sacrifice and genocide to name but 2 more crimes. Most Christians are more moral than their god spend time squirming trying to explain away his brutality.

you’ve known Christians who think you’re immoral for not following Christianity?

Sort of. Christians who think that it is impossible to have a moral code without religion. And when I point out that I do a whole crap load of 'good' stuff because it makes me feel good, they cannot understand it. Particularly as I do more stuff than the average. I have a 'moral' job and 'moral' volunteering.

Which is weird because I'm fairly sure they wouldn't start murdering people if the commandments were nixed.

Fewer people seem to belong to or believe in an organised religion these days, in my experience. But I've noticed an increase in irrational beliefs like horoscopes, tarot cards, "the law of attraction", "the Secret" etc. This stuff seems to have become quite mainstream and accepted now. I'm still always surprised when someone will earnestly say in conversation "oh well of course I'm a typical Libra" or whatever. I think human beings just want to believe in something.